What internetdomains do we keep?

@patrickinstalle As I understand it partipirate.be is now used to direct to three sites
* partipirate.be
* finance.partipirate.be
* tubize.partipirate.be

What needs to happen with the main domain partipirate.be? On first sight it looks like a mostly empty Docuwiki.
We could easily set the DNS records so that the subdomains are kept, but if the main domain needs to be directed to the docuwiki, it's a bit pointless to transfer the domain.
My first proposal for transfering partipirate.be to the ITSquad would be that we
1. Point finance.partipirate.be to the same IP as it's pointed to now
2. Point tubize.partipirate.be to the same IP as it's pointed to now
3. Either point another subdomain of partipirate.be (eg terre.partipirate.be ) to the current docuwiki, or in case the docu isn't needed anymore just don't point to it at all anymore.

This proposal assumes that
1. you don't use the domain for anything else and
2. that the IP addresses of the servers it's pointed to won't need change over a significant timeperiod.

What are your thoughts on this?

The domain is paid until may 2019. We are npot in hurry. The transfert shoud be correctly synchronized.
It could be coherent to create a backup of finance.partipirate.be and tubize.partipirate.be and setup new instance in an hosting owned by the pirate party.
Those operation could be done in an IT lab.

@valeried How much are you set on the idea of having partipiratenpartij.be as main domain? The thing is that I like the wordplay, but I see several disadvantages and even one problem that I needed time to work out myself.

Let me start with the simple ones

• A domainname shouldn't be too long, I think the pirateparty.be is already quite long, but still okey for a domain. partipiratenpartij.be may already be to long
• pirateparty.be is already a known name internationaly
• pirateparty.be is the one we already use (not much of an argument IMO, but still)
• partipiratenpartij.be uses both Dutch an French, but no German, which is also an official Belgian language. pirateparty.be doesn't have any of these, but it has the advantage of being English, which is more recognised as an international language.
• But then the thing I have the most fear of is that it will point out this Flemish-Francophonian devide that already lives in Belgium (at least it does in Flanders). I'm pretty sure people will give it meaning and I would really like to keep that out. I mean, we believe in the right of self-determination, but that doesn't have to mean "splitting up", nor does it have to mean "staying togheter", so I really would like to leave this hot potato as far away as possible.

• For specific mediapurposes (marketing and different targetaudience) and mainly content in dutch I acquired https://piratenpartij.vlaanderen. The site isn't finished but it's already accessible and there some information on it. I'm extending it uses and purposes.
• One of the possible choices would be to render a service to new crews to organisae themselves. Since the Antwerp site was down - and still is - I'm now building seperate domains per location: https://antwerpen/piratenpartij.vlaanderen, https://mechelen/piratenpartij.vlaanderen were we install seperate wordpress-instances. The idea is make us more visible by using the location as a structured keyword in combination with "piratenpartij" in google searches. I'm still imroving the SEO results. I can understand you don't like this "hot potatoe", but please see this as a mediastrategy specifically to get more local connections and visibility. The name 'vlaanderen' is attractive to some and a business-platform. Since we also have the Flemish Parliament, Flemish elections and we're not that present in Dutch, I went ahead and set it up.
• I understand you wanted to keep that (separatistic Flemish cult) out, but it's necessary to get 'in' in my plan. Besides it can only help our exposure.
• If you have any questions, or would like your own wordpress-installation, or would like to cooperate on the plans and data we're generating, please send us a mail. We're looking to connect dots, not seperate them, although it may seem that way. ;)

eeerr well maybe you are connecting dots... but to me you are mostly drawing a new line, totally disconnected from the previous now :weary:

I don't have anything against the .vlaanderen TLD. I also don't have anything against having a lot of domains, it's just that we're still living on donations, so it's our responsibility to make sure the money isn't wasted. AFAIK piratenpartij.vlaanderen isn't paid for by the general account, so this isn't an issue here.

I never said anything like wanting to keep that separatistic Flemish cult out. I littarly said that doesn't have to mean "splitting up", nor does it have to mean "staying togheter" I think it should be pretty clear that I'm talking about the whole discourse in general, not just one part of it.

For the rest
* I just now made https://www.loomio.org/d/QE0vNd4W/vlaanderen-verkiezingen-2019 for discussing elections.
* For discussing tools and webservices there's already https://www.loomio.org/d/CBXg8u56/pirate-kittens-it-find-and-host-libre-tools-that-pirates-need

@iljabaert I have a feeling there are two questions:
1) which is the central domain that we want, on which the website will be?
2) which other domains do we want to buy to redirect to it?
So we do not have to restrict ourselves.

Example : our old drupal website was on partipiratenpartij but typing pirateparty.be or piratenpartij.be was bringing us to it (if i remember well).

Of course, if you don't want to make your life complicated and buy too many domains, it's best to keep pirateparty.be and leave out the bilingual.

-> I have a feeling there are two questions
You are correct ofc

-> pirateparty.be and leave out the bilingual
I'll do that then ^{^}

Now, it's not that have anything against a lot of domains per sé. It's just that they cost money, so I like to keep them as few as possible, but still be practical. I think we have that with the current domains (I'm not 100% sure about parley, but no one objected and I do like the the idea of a more neutral domain for sharing services to the world, so I guess that's that ^' ).

Hello @patrickinstalle ! I made two subdomains that point to your OVH server :
* finance.pirateparty.be -> finance.partipirate.be
* tubize.pirateparty.be -> tubize.partipirate.be

Once you're done with the migration, we can transfer the domain partipirate.be to metaregistrar :)