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Tue 9 Oct 2018 5:01PM

What internetdomains do we keep?

I Ilja Public Seen by 44

Currently the (Belgian) pirateparty own several domains, each having a cost of €10,95/yr[1]. Some are unused and still owned purely for historical reasons, I think we can at least scratch a few.

domains currently owned by PPBE:
* parley.be
* thepirateparty.be
* depiratenpartij.be
* lepartipirate.be
* diepiratenpartei.be
* piratenpartij.be
* pirateparty.be

You'll notice that we have two English domains pirateparty.be and thepirateparty.be. I propose to keep pirateparty.be 'cause it's the domain we mainly use and scratch thepirateparty.be since it's unused.
We have two Dutch domains, piratenpartij.be and depiratenpartij.be. I propose to keep piratenpartij.be since it's used to redirect to the Dutch version of the website and scratch depiratenpartij.be.
We have one French domain which is used to redirect to the French version of the website lepartipirate.be, so I propose to keep it. The domain partipirate.be also exists, but isn't owned by us.
We have a German version diepiratenpartei.be which is unused. I propose to scratch it.
We still have parley.be which is unused atm. One point that has been brought up is that we may want to have services that we want to set open to the rest of the world (Mastodon is an example of this). We've noticed that people often keep away from the pirateparty.be domain, so it may be a good thing to have a more neutral domain. This domain could be kept for that.

Assuming we keep parley.be, that would make my current proposal to

scratsch:
* thepirateparty.be
* depiratenpartij.be
* diepiratenpartei.be

keep:
* parley.be
* lepartipirate.be
* piratenpartij.be
* pirateparty.be

What are your thoughts on this? Are there other domains we should keep? Others we should remove? Extra domains we should buy? ...?

[1] https://wiki.pirateparty.be/ITSquad

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HgO Tue 9 Oct 2018 5:11PM

Thanks Ilja !!

I agree with what you said, except that we could try to buy partipirate.be which is owned by @patrickinstalle and then scratch lepartipirate.be

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Ilja Tue 9 Oct 2018 5:16PM

It would make the whole more consistent, so I'm all for. That would mean that Patrick will have to agree with moving the current partipirate.be site to another domain owned by him or to a subdomain owned by PPBE, so I guess that one is up to him.

PI

Patrick Installé Wed 10 Oct 2018 8:34AM

The history of the domain partipirate.be is quite cumberusome :-(. The is no problem to transfer this domain to the it squad. However there is a need for a solution finance.partipirate.be and a wich for tubize.partipirate.be.
For the moment it's the last days before elections. We talk about that after elections.

JD

Jelle Debusscher Thu 11 Oct 2018 6:29PM

Our site antwerpsepiraten.be ( http://antwerpsepiraten.be ) is still down and it doesn't look like it's getting back online before the elections. Big mistake.

I suggest we could use pages for the seperate crews on pirateparty.be ( http://pirateparty.be ) i.e. [crewname or city].pirateparty.be ( http://pirateparty.be ) so we can become more visible locally and we give some autonomy to crews to define themselves. This invitation to start a new crew, grow, add local content is a way to revitalise the pirates and commit people.

So we are a crew without a page and I'd like to address this as described above.
What are your thoughts on this?

Jelle

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Ilja Fri 12 Oct 2018 2:40PM

Sure! Subdomains don't even cost money, we just have to set the DNS records :)
For example liege.pirateparty.be already exists and they currently use it for hosting tools and mailbox and... (more info on thread https://www.loomio.org/d/CBXg8u56/pirate-kittens-it-find-and-host-libre-tools-that-pirates-need/20 )

If you can tell me what sub.domain.be you want (e.g. antwerpen.piratenpartij.be ) and to which IP it should be directed I can set it up.
If you need more than just a direct to the page (like if you'll use the server for mail...) I'll need more information.

DU

Tue 9 Oct 2018 9:11PM

thanks, I agree Ilja

DU

Wed 10 Oct 2018 5:55AM

That's a good idea.
And with all that savings, we could buy domains with a strong message:
- www.superboost-democracy-in-belgium.be
- www.democracy-is-more-than-elections.be
- etc
And produce specific campaigns for the next elections.

VD

Valerie D. Wed 10 Oct 2018 7:13AM

I also loved partipiratenpartij.be which had the advantage of being bilingual... nice as the main one.

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Ilja Fri 19 Oct 2018 5:10PM

I feel that we have consent on scratching the three proposed domains. I just disabled the automatic renewal of the following domains:

  • depiratenpartij.be (expires: 2019-01-31 22:59:59 UTC)
  • diepiratenpartei.be (expires: 2019-01-31 22:59:59 UTC)
  • thepirateparty.be (expires: 2019-01-31 22:59:59 UTC)
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Ilja Wed 7 Nov 2018 6:26PM

Okey, elections are over, let's continue this :p
As I see it there are two unresolved threads.
1. Have partipirate.be instead of lepartipirate.be
2. Should we buy partipiratenpartij.be and use it as the main one instead of pirateparty.be
I'm not really sure how to proceed next since that will mean two discussions in one thread, but let's try and see what it gives.

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