Loomio
Tue 28 May 2019 8:13PM

Platform to chat

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Hello to you all !
I have a suggestion for you: why not use a chatting platform ?
I saw that the French Pirate Party had a discord server with chatting rooms and channels for oral conversation. They also implemented a bot with custom commands for online assemblies (you can, for example, ask for an unmute with the command "o/" and give your opinion) . Their server is available here: https://discord.partipirate.org/.
Discord servers are free and we don't need to host it ourselves BUT it is not open source and everything is logged.
I also found another alternative: Riot.
It does the same as discord but it's encrypted and we will have to host it ourselves (and then, have to protect our servers from potential account stealing). It also has a lot of integrations as you can see here: https://modular.im/services/matrix-integrations but we would have to make our own bot for online assemblies instead of asking to use the french one.

What do you think about that? Let me know ! :slight_smile:

LM

Lander Meeusen Fri 31 May 2019 8:50AM

I registered on the Matrix-chats. It seems to me to be the same as a facebook-chatgroup. Except it is probably open source and more privacy-friendly.

I think a collective place to chat like this is necessary. I would leave it to local groups how they want to organize their internal communication. (e.g. the facebook chat of the Antwerp pirates.)

The problem I see in Antwerp goes also for this Matrix-chatgroup. There is no oversight. A mix between Loomio and a chat would be good. Different topics split up, different proposals and reactions split up (= Loomio), but also not having to scroll down and read through posts of 2 years ago (= Matrix/FB).

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Ilja Fri 31 May 2019 10:29PM

Okey, so the link is changed to https://riot.im/app/#/group/+ppbe-everywhere:matrix.org

positive side
* It shows the groupchats that we have
* It allows for easy sign-up
* You can easily get to the rooms once you're logged in, without the need for an app (it's in the webbrowser)

counterpoints
* It's not trivially possible to allow people to join without making an account
* yet another account
* by default, the account will be on riot.im which is already to much of a centralised hub in a supposedly decentralised system

Changing the settings of the room like @hgo proposed allowed a read-only mode, but didn't allow people to participate as guests. This also meant that everything was visible, which not everyone was comfortable with. If we want to go this direction, it'll need a separate discussion-thread so this can be resolved first.

All in all I do think it's an improvement. Thx @landermeeusen for bringing this up!