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Tue 28 May 2019 8:13PM

Platform to chat

DU Twicko Public Seen by 29

Hello to you all !
I have a suggestion for you: why not use a chatting platform ?
I saw that the French Pirate Party had a discord server with chatting rooms and channels for oral conversation. They also implemented a bot with custom commands for online assemblies (you can, for example, ask for an unmute with the command "o/" and give your opinion) . Their server is available here: https://discord.partipirate.org/.
Discord servers are free and we don't need to host it ourselves BUT it is not open source and everything is logged.
I also found another alternative: Riot.
It does the same as discord but it's encrypted and we will have to host it ourselves (and then, have to protect our servers from potential account stealing). It also has a lot of integrations as you can see here: https://modular.im/services/matrix-integrations but we would have to make our own bot for online assemblies instead of asking to use the french one.

What do you think about that? Let me know ! :slight_smile:

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Nino Tue 28 May 2019 8:20PM

the hackerspace HSBXL runs a riot:

ptt.hackerspaces.be

feel free to make an account :)

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HgO Tue 28 May 2019 8:21PM

Hello and welcome on board ! :)

We are already using Matrix / Riot as a chat platform. You'll find the community here : https://riot.im/app/#/group/+ppbe-everywhere:matrix.org There are four chatrooms at the moment : general discussion,ITSquad, Pirates of Liège, and Conseil Citoyen

The PPBe isn't proposing a Matrix server, so it's up to you to create an account on the network ;)

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Twicko Tue 28 May 2019 9:57PM

Oh ok thank you ! :slight_smile: That would be great to have it on the homepage of the website or at another visible place

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Ilja Thu 30 May 2019 5:35PM

I recently added it on the Dutch part of the website https://nl.pirateparty.be/contribute/
But maybe we should see if we can put it in the footer as well somehow... (where the twitter, FB and fediverse logos are)
Not sure if it's on the French version of the site? @hgo @vanecx

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Lander Meeusen Fri 31 May 2019 7:09AM

@iljabaert Suggestion: the link "Matrix" now links to the home-site. Can you make a link directly to the pirate-chats? #ppbe- ...

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Ilja Fri 31 May 2019 8:24PM

You need a Matrix account and a client, so there's nothing to link to really... Or at least not that I know of without setting up more stuff.

I'm not sure if it's possible somehow to have a webclient where people can just use a guest account or smthng (well it's probably possible using IRC and a bridge, but that seems overkill and maybe not a super good user experience). I think this would be the best option since it would be an easy way to enter the room but still allow to use your own account and apps if you want to.

Another thing we could do is to install the RIOT webinterface and allow people to sign up there, but that means yet another account, so I really would like to start looking at single-sign-on solutions first then. An example of the webapp can be found at https://riot.im/app/#/welcome

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HgO Fri 31 May 2019 9:48PM

I'm not sure where we could put the Matrix link in the French contribute page, because that version differs a lot from the Dutch version :/

Hmm adding icons in the footer of the theme was tricky…

Also, I would just put a link towards the community, and not to the chatrooms. Because if we create a new chatroom, we won't have to edit the page. So, it would look like that : +ppbe-everywhere:matrix.org

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HgO Fri 31 May 2019 9:52PM

If you click on the link I just gave, you'll see that matrix.org allow you to connect as a guest. However, if you want to enter into a chatroom, I guess you need that the chatroom allows guests. So we would need to change the permissions of the chatrooms.

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Ilja Fri 31 May 2019 9:55PM

adding icons in the footer of the theme was tricky…

I assumed you just overwrote the icon from another platform? :p

So we would need to change the permissions of the chatrooms.

Can we do that? I would rather not force people to make yet another account.

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HgO Fri 31 May 2019 10:10PM

I assumed you just overwrote the icon from another platform? :p

Yup, but that means changing the themes files on the server. That's really cumbersome. I'll do it at some point (not tonight), but let's just hope that a theme upgrade doesn't wipe all the changes '

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