Loomio
November 3rd, 2016 16:06

Who are we as one? Demo_001

Joe
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I invite each of you to help create a demo of the core concept solution I have been discussing to date. All you need do is respond to the proposal I will create next. I will create a spreadsheet, so everyone can watch in real time the resultant object change as time matches forward.

Of course you are free to agree, abstain, disagree or block, but please use "agree" if you are up for seeing your impact on the resultant object. Within the comment just insert your rank-ordering of the items. (see below)

Let's just start with a case with just 4 starter items. This limits combinations to 24, so the spreadsheet will be simpler to explore.

So what we need to start with is the case for the list. The case creates the context.

For this demo let's make the case:

"What's more important when considering creating a new platform/tool that will help advance coops in our world?"

Starter list items:

  • sia = simple initial ask
  • fue = fun user experience
  • nol = no obvious leadership
  • gve = guaranteed virtual engagement

gve means once you join, your coop avatar will automatically engage for you - if you do not manually engage.

These are 4 possible list items that could exist for this particular case. There can be hundreds. Hopefully you immediately see other possibilities. Feel free to share, but for now let's just limit this demo to these four.

The spreadsheet will mux together every participants lists and it will show us all, who we are as a single being or our group voice.

Understand in a future tool you will be able to submit anonymously, but here everyone will see your list. Also understand that anyone can change their list ordering at any time so you can initially engage with one list and change as you see what emerges in time.

Because you can change, I next want to introduce a next very important innovation in my solution - this concept of guaranteed virtual engagement and why it's so important to include in any solution.

People lead very busy lives. No one really wants to eat up a lot of precious time working within "good cause" groups like d@w. So I created a solution that has you engaging even when you are not available to engage.

It in some ways mirrors what your elected representatives in government are supposed to be doing for you today - representing you! But in my solution you have 100% control over this "gov rep", very different than the 0% control you have with the model we all must live with in today's world.

Imagine a world where every person can rep themselves and directly impact all group decision making. But there's not enough time or interest. So you create your gov rep or gov avatar to do all this dirty work for you. The simplest way to do this is to pick anyone else in the group as your proxy. Instruct your gov a to do the same as what this person's gov a does. But this would have to be someone you trust completely. A another simple option is to do whatever the group as a whole or part does.

So imagine you stand within a subgroup of like-minded participants and you have your gov a engage the same as the mux of this subgroup does.

This type of architecture solution requires only a single real human being engage to start the chain reaction. In real-world practice many real humans will override their gov a's auto response in the time duration given the decision work put forth. So what really happens in time is several real people engage and then at the last second all the gov a's begin to react. You probably then now see that the solution requires an ordering process solution. (I will not get into this at this time. The point I'm trying to make is gve is really possible and IMHO is a very important advancement in governance only made possible with technology.)

So feel free to respond to the proposal with agree and group mux or as so-n-so listed vs. a particular personal list ordering and this way you will be implementing the gve piece of the solution.

Now in a real-world platform that first asks you to find a home subgroup we can also make your gov a default to your home groups mux. This way all you must do to get started is rank-order a list of psychographics. The system auto places you in a best-match group. You need do nothing else ever, but you are now a fully participating member in this virtual world of cooperation. And you have equal power within it.

This is the type of simplicity I believe d@w should brand itself with to yell to the world that it has something radically different with which to shift the world toward being a far better place.

But first step is just to better understand how muxing works with this demo.

Joe

Joe started a proposal November 3rd, 2016 16:09

Demo_001 feedback Closed 11:02am - Sunday 6 Nov 2016

Outcome
by Joe April 20th, 2017 22:11

I'll conclude that there's very little interest in exploring disruptive new solutions in this group at this time.

Please agree, abstain, disagree or block.

If you agree please comment with your ordering. See case and list items below:

"What's more important when considering creating a new platform/tool that will help advance coops in our world?"

Starter list items:

  • sia = simple initial ask
  • fue = fun user experience
  • nol = no obvious leadership
  • gve = guaranteed virtual engagement

Results
Agree - 2
Abstain - 2
Disagree - 2
Block - 2
4 people have voted (0%)
Joe

Joe
Agree
November 3rd, 2016 16:10

  1. sia 2. fur 3. nol 4. gve
Joe

Joe November 3rd, 2016 19:11

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KRBZEiNcQvsum8t0FiIYuhg-0ac_pWtsPw6tn2tkvi0/edit?usp=sharing

Spreadsheet that muxes all the submitted lists.

Just look at numbers in yellow cells to see muxed ordering. Largest number determines top list spot = #1 position. Next largest = #2 position. Etc.

Matt   Grantham

Matt Grantham
Agree
November 4th, 2016 01:43

Matthew Bair

Matthew Bair
Abstain
November 4th, 2016 13:21

To technical and complicated, sia = simple initial ask

Matthew Bair

Matthew Bair
Abstain
November 4th, 2016 13:35

To technical and complicated, sia = simple initial ask, what is mux?

David Brinovec

David Brinovec
Abstain
November 4th, 2016 14:09

Joe

Joe November 4th, 2016 14:11

@matthewbair Mux is an automatic algorithm for combining together priority lists of items from different participants, so a single group voice can be established. This versus the need for a majority vote or a leadership decision. With muxing every participant has 100% equal power to impact what the one voice says to the world.

All you need to is establish your own priority list with the options provided. Your list compares each item and establishes which you believe to be more important than the next one lower in the list.

There's also opportunity for you to add new items you feel are even more important.

Net result is you are more happy being yourself and engaging while still impacting the group voice as an equal within the decision making process.

It's a whole new way of approaching collaboration. Very different than the norm, but an approach that can possibly improve our world.

It's really not that complicated once the core concept is better understood.

The big plus over today's solution is unpopular options are weighted equally with popular options, so far more fair and way better compromise-focused solution.

It's a way to keep both sides of an issue together working toward a common goal and happy - even when there is great disagreement.

Matthew Bair

Matthew Bair November 5th, 2016 16:12

Thanks Joe, kind of like proportional balloting for ideas, huhh.

Joe

Joe November 6th, 2016 12:14

Yes.

Anyone can create any case and initial list of items. Everyone has a chance to engage or not. If you engage then you can then add any items you feel are even more important. Then everyone can consider changing their initial ranking after each new item is added. Time is very important to this solution - giving enough time to contemplate and consider new items we might not have thought about on our own - because we all tend to think from our own personal POV.

There can be a discussion (politicing) attached to each case and list, so we can give reason to why one item is more important than other(s.) But everyone is clear on what everyone else feels is the most important items, so the focus (limited time and resources) is spent on the right issues (items.) This makes the whole messy process more efficient.

Perhaps the greatest innovation here is the built-in automatic compromise - the single voice that automatically emerges. And this voice can change automatically as time moves forward. No need to revisit static documents and try to figure out how to edit in the changes. All the lists of the group are dynamic. Even the lists themselves can be prioritized through time, so as more and more content and decisions are co-created, there's always that place to start to learn what the collaboration group feels is most important in the present moment. So any newcomer (or person coming back from being away for a while) has a clear and concise place to start to (re)educate themselves about the work of the group. No need to have to read through masses of past discussions and work effort - to dig out the latest and greatest pieces.

The priority list done this way really helps each unique collaboration group become for more effective. The list work also can help subdivide larger groups into subgroups by helping put together like-minded individuals who have engaged in the same lists and who have rank ordered items in a similar manner. This is critically important to keep everyone together and happier as a whole, but allowing subdivision at the same time. It's impossible to keep everyone happy otherwise as time marches forward. Any successful solution MUST recognize and work with the fact about human beings. We are all very finicky creatures. And most of us believe our way is always the best way. It's not until later that we learn it often is not!

Matthew Bair

Matthew Bair November 6th, 2016 12:29

Is this an algorithm you intend for all of Loomio or are you proposing it only for the D@W group?

Joe

Joe November 6th, 2016 13:21

All collaboration platforms and groups. It's free for the taking. The solution is no secret. But muxive will be an API-based solution in time for folks like Loomio, Slack and Trello to integrate with.

Until that day (hopefully coming soon) I'm just trying to get d@w members to get excited, learn more and even test it out using digital tools that exist today. Like using Loomio and a Google spreadsheet.

Joe

Joe November 6th, 2016 13:29

Muxive is not my project. It's actually the co-creation of another person. Muxive is not solely intended as a coop type collaboration tool. Instead it will launch as a new form of social media platform with a focus on co-creating priority lists together. Mostly for entertainment type purposes in the beginning. E.g. Greatest female singers of all time.

But we know in time muxive will be used to help groups collaborate more effectively and harmoniously. It has many special innovations to help smooth the process of co-creation.