Convocation
Renaud Van Eeckhout
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Next step : writing the convocation
Now is the time to decide what we will write to all the Pirates. It's not a detail, as for many Pirates this will be the first time they hear about this GA, first time they hear about this vzw/asbl, first time they hear about the new website... And these Pirates are not worth less than us who have that information.
It's important to keep that in mind before sending the convocations, we have to share the information.
For each of the 4 parts of the agenda, I believe we should provide a link to a page (a wiki page seems most obvious?) that contains the necessary information to provide to the Pirates. For ex. the page on the vzw/asbl should contain a context, and links to the various meetings where this was discussed. The page with the proposals sent by mail should contain these proposals etc.
If you find a better way to share the information to all the Pirates (not just those on Loomio, or just those on Facebook), please do say.
HgO Fri 9 Sep 2016 7:11AM
Hm I don't get it. Why not sending to any pirates, regardless whether they paid their membership or not? We are not sending reminder for the membership fee anyway, so that would let them informed about this as well. The good thing is that we would already have this list ready.
Good :) Could we see this header somewhere?
Jan Van Opstal Fri 9 Sep 2016 7:00AM
A press release ????
Jov Ver Fri 9 Sep 2016 7:22AM
Hmm. I increasingly notice that Loomio is just another Facebook where we can argue and bicker for times on end without actually getting anywhere. That will result, as it has done in the past, in us not getting organised and thus not being able to give the general population the political alternative they need.
I attached the header to my previous post above, but it doesn't show. But it is part of the "So? Agenda OK" thread here on Loomio as well.
I'm not answering your question. As mentioned, this (Loomio) is not at all a productive way of working. I am willing to talk to you. Here's my number: 0485 977 727.
Jan Van Opstal Fri 9 Sep 2016 8:16AM
I do not have the same experience...
If well done progression is possible on loomio . The point is that we as Pirates are still on to many different platforms. It is a labyrinth....
Websites / facebooks / wiki / pads / loomio / slack a more consistent way of working is certainly of great importance....
More research is on the way .... In the mean time we already need a 'minister' of simplification..... :-)
Thierry Fenasse Fri 9 Sep 2016 9:01AM
Except the FACT that it is PUBLIC. Copy / paste this curent page link : https://www.loomio.org/d/KhXLGfau/convocation in a Private Window of your browser and you will see the difference. Try the same with any of BPU Facebook stuff... that's the difference.
Transparency. Period.
Poll Created Fri 9 Sep 2016 8:22AM
Higher member fee Closed Fri 9 Sep 2016 8:25AM
A member fee of 1€/year is in my view of point too less to have a workable organisation.
Proposal to make it 1€/month or 12€/year minimum.
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Also a invitation what the new member can or is willing to help, their skill’s, could be asked in the payment sheet, etc
A reminder should been send.
I know something about member fees is already discussed by the proposal about the asbl/vzw.
So just to make things clear to avoid long discussions at the GA.
When the proposal is drafted then we can vote about dividing the member fees between local crews and national/european organisation.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 100.0% | 1 |
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| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 47 |
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1 of 48 people have participated (2%)
Pat Seynaeve Fri 9 Sep 2016 8:26AM
proposal moved to brainstromingzone
HgO Fri 9 Sep 2016 10:29AM
Please, could we try to avoid off-topic?
So, since you aren't answering my question about membership, I can safely assume that there is no reason for not sending the invitation mail to any pirates.
You seem to complain a lot about people doing nothing, but when someone is proposing his help, you start arguing about something else. Maybe I'm wrong to say this, but this is how I feel it.
I will just do it my way, that is writing on the piratepad I linked the convocation letter, and then send it via mailchimp. I will of course ask for everybody's inputs and approvals before sending it. Unless you have something better to propose...
Christophe Cop Fri 9 Sep 2016 11:07AM
Technically, you should mail all people who have done a payment in 2013, because they are still member today, as there was no "reminder" to renew their membership.
As such, they are still members.
Plus, this GA is also a reach-out to all Belgian Pirates, a wake-up call so to speak. By mailing them all, old crews might become active again.
Jov Ver · Fri 9 Sep 2016 6:56AM
We would send to active members who have paid their membership.
Toon is working on that list already. Monica created the image we'd use as a header.