Next step : writing the convocation
Now is the time to decide what we will write to all the Pirates. It's not a detail, as for many Pirates this will be the first time they hear about this GA, first time they hear about this vzw/asbl, first time they hear about the new website... And these Pirates are not worth less than us who have that information.
It's important to keep that in mind before sending the convocations, we have to share the information.
For each of the 4 parts of the agenda, I believe we should provide a link to a page (a wiki page seems most obvious?) that contains the necessary information to provide to the Pirates. For ex. the page on the vzw/asbl should contain a context, and links to the various meetings where this was discussed. The page with the proposals sent by mail should contain these proposals etc.
If you find a better way to share the information to all the Pirates (not just those on Loomio, or just those on Facebook), please do say.
Pat Seynaeve started a proposal September 9th, 2016 08:22
Higher member fee Closed 10:25am - Friday 9 Sep 2016
A member fee of 1€/year is in my view of point too less to have a workable organisation.
Proposal to make it 1€/month or 12€/year minimum.
Also a invitation what the new member can or is willing to help, their skill’s, could be asked in the payment sheet, etc
A reminder should been send.
I know something about member fees is already discussed by the proposal about the asbl/vzw.
So just to make things clear to avoid long discussions at the GA.
When the proposal is drafted then we can vote about dividing the member fees between local crews and national/european organisation.
|Agree - 1|
|Abstain - 1|
|Disagree - 1|
|Block - 1|
HgO started a proposal September 10th, 2016 19:57
Send a second convocation letter to any pirates Closed 9:01pm - Tuesday 13 Sep 2016
I propose that we send a second convocation letter to any pirates, that is to any members regardless they paid their membership fee. We would use the mailing list from mailchimp, which is usually used to send our newsletters.
Cf. the discussion for more details about all the reasons for this new convocation letter.
|Agree - 9|
|Abstain - 9|
|Disagree - 9|
|Block - 9|
September 10th, 2016 21:18
Mailchimp list has a list of members of the movement. They're not members of the party. For the latter membership fee needs to have been paid before invitations are sent out.
If not, you open doors to have the ga highjacked.
September 11th, 2016 09:19
Not informing people who have been following us for years of a decision impacting the way we work will eventually backfire.
If the main reason is that we don't trust them, it will make things worse
We are talking about attending the GA. Not voting.
Jan Van Opstal
September 11th, 2016 11:21
If our intentions are nobel, we should not be afraid.
Opening the GA is a way to let the Pirate movement grow...
We need a mass movement in order to change the system, so let us start to at least inform all previous Pirates... And welcome new.
September 12th, 2016 13:49
No way that we send a letter to the ones who did not pay the membership fee. It's clearly in the status that if you did not pay you do not have the right to vote. It's 1€ so if they did not do it then let's forget them and move on.
sarah van liefferinge
September 13th, 2016 00:49
I hope we won't attract Pirate visitors who think we're going to debate Pirate ideas and who are looking for 'ideological content', instead of organisation and structure. should be made clear that the focus is on the latter during this GA.