Loomio
August 17th, 2017 08:35

Start our own poll of smaller parties?

Tane Harre
Tane Harre Public Seen by 439

In response to the non-representation of smaller parties in the polls, should we approach the smaller parties and see if we can group together to create our own poll.

Miriam Mallinder

Miriam Mallinder August 17th, 2017 11:18

so how would that go Tane?
Internet
Mana
Legalize Cannabis
McGillicuddy
(etc)
or
OTHER
??

:)

Miriam Mallinder

Miriam Mallinder August 17th, 2017 11:18

And this is interesting ...

http://www.onthefence.co.nz/

Jo Booth

Jo Booth August 17th, 2017 11:48

Yeah - they restrict parties to those who make the polls too.

There was a recent effort from the Logic party to join everyone together http://logic.org.nz

M

Martyn August 17th, 2017 14:57

I think @williamasiata had a thread about something like this a couple of years ago. I think it's a good idea, none of the small parties are getting any real coverage at all so it'd be good to reach out to the public. What parties would we be approaching?

Tane Harre

Tane Harre August 17th, 2017 19:35

All the small parties. Another way to do it and complain about the lack of coverage at the same time would be to invite each of the parties onto zoom and get them to point out the lack of coverage and then talk for five minutes on a policy of theirs that they think nz should be interested in.

This would show leadership by ip on the issue and hopefully gain some coverage.

Suzie Dawson

Suzie Dawson August 17th, 2017 20:48

now THAT is a fantastic idea

Tane Harre

Tane Harre August 17th, 2017 20:54

I have expanded a little bit on it here

You guys have the skills. It would bring the smaller parties into the light. Highlight the problems we are all having gaining traction. Show altruism, leadership, positive solutions, etc....

Mathew Innes

Mathew Innes August 18th, 2017 05:05

if they are funded, they should be neutral to all the people from the diverse society their viewers reflect. from 1 to 5 million. that's not so hard if it was lotto; finding the winner, so yeah. when will the real opinion count ?

Daymond Goulder-Horobin

Daymond Goulder-Horobin August 18th, 2017 07:21

Would be a great idea, we approach smaller parties and we create our own applet or website which would let users decide among the smaller parties. I guess it would be a coalition of sorts.

We could even take it a step further and host debates on live-streams among the smaller parties instead of relying on the mainstream media debates hosted by Mike Hosking and Patrick Gower. l=Like Ban 1080, United Peoples Movement, Mana, etc and maybe have an independant host the debate.

Miriam Mallinder

Miriam Mallinder August 18th, 2017 09:56

Yeah but if you do a poll you have to put all 16 parties into the poll, otherwise the question becomes "which SMALL party do you like" and would not be indicative.

Yes, get someone to host a debate amongst smaller parties, I don't see how that would fail to entertain the masses so therefore a good idea.

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Martyn August 18th, 2017 10:21

Do we have anybody willing to follow through on this?

Tane Harre

Tane Harre August 18th, 2017 21:46

I think we would all have to band together on it. It wouldn't essentially be to hard to come up with some sort of policy site but doing a poll of say a thousand people would require all the parties putting a few people on it for a day, an agreed methodology, and using random phone numbers out of the phone book.

Same failing that way as the other polls though, not all people have landlines. Internet might be a better medium. Facebook would have the most coverage.

Suzie Dawson

Suzie Dawson August 19th, 2017 19:25

This is a priority for me to organise but it'll be after this weeks event (tonight) is out of the way, and our Party list submitted to the electoral commission. Then we'll wipe the floor with these sites by developing something infinitely better in a tiny fraction of the time.

IA

idiom axiom August 21st, 2017 08:50

Logic party Policy #1

"Change the 'Share Registry' records to end and replace private ownership of common resource companies under the law of Magna Carta, with government ownership, to re-establish:"

I can't imagine why that's not a killer policy being lapped up. Oh right, that's how everyone dies.

Tane Harre

Tane Harre August 22nd, 2017 08:02

Another idea on this. You could set up an ad to be served from the site that other sites could place on theirs.

In explanation. I have been talking to an ad guy about the need for ethical ads. All the ad agencies seem to have a heap of ads trying to get you to do stuff but I believe an ad server that got you to join causes you believe in would be more effective.

In this case, if you supported the smaller parties having a say, please insert this HTML in your wordpress widget, etc....and so on.

IA

idiom axiom August 23rd, 2017 08:11

Its been a looong time since I saw an ad.