April 10th, 2018 07:42

Fellow travellers

A thread to post information about similar projects, ancillary to what we are doing and from which we might learn. Obviously, exactly what we are actually doing is still fluid, but hopefully will become clearer.

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

Mark Simmonds (Co-op Culture & Platform 6) April 10th, 2018 07:44

An interesting patronage model platform looking to fund the development of "common goods" through the donations of members - strong parallels. https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/ Have been going since 2014 and their wiki is an interesting presentation of similar issues and challenges to those we are considering.

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

Mark Simmonds (Co-op Culture & Platform 6) April 10th, 2018 07:48

Solid Fund of course https://solidfund.coop/

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

Mark Simmonds (Co-op Culture & Platform 6) April 10th, 2018 08:21

I'm sure you'll have plenty to add here @jdaviescoates

Nathan Brown (Co-op Culture)

Nathan Brown (Co-op Culture) April 10th, 2018 11:44

Shared Interest is a donation platform to support development as well as investment platform https://www.shared-interest.com/gb

John Atherton

John Atherton April 10th, 2018 11:55

https://opencollective.com/ a way for groups to collect money and pay for things transparently.

Josef Davies-Coates

Josef Davies-Coates April 11th, 2018 15:24

The scope of this project is so broad I'm not really sure what this thread is asking for?

But the first thing I'd share is Edventure Frome's Community Enterprise School - imho every community should have something very similar (but with more explicit focus on co-op and community-owned enterprise - they just define a "community enterprise" and any enterprise that is good for the community and they mostly aren't actually co-ops nor community-owned enterprises :-/ )


Graham April 17th, 2018 07:21

Interestingly, https://social.coop - the social network run on a Mastodon instance (i think Josef and I are currently members), uses opencollective, and is discussing the potential to host their own instnace of the open collective code (which is open source). We are currenetly looking at CoBudget, which as yet has no mechanism whereby people can directly contribute funds. Would be interesting to compare and contrast. I certainly don't think that the opencollective business model is antithetical to our approach.


Graham April 17th, 2018 12:51

Also learned through https://social.coop, from Leo Sammallahti, who is an active member there and a keen supporter of cooperatives generally, WeCo which is Reddit-style platform, is in process of becoming a cooperative, and has been accepted on the Unfound programme. Leo is an early user of that platform and a financial supporter.


Graham April 18th, 2018 11:05


Graham April 21st, 2018 17:47

Whilst reading lots of stuff about RIPESS I came across this excellent project - FundAction -which looks in many ways like a Europe-wide version of what we are talking about for Platform 6. More interestingly, they are using a tech platform for their deliberations called Decidim which I've come across before, but thought it was primarily focussed on providing a tool for local authorities to do participatory budgeting. Looking at it more closely I'm thinking that it might actually a good fit for Platform 6, as it purportedly provides for: deliberation, decision-making, planning, and participatory budgeting. Investigating more closely. Looks to be quite widely used by local authorities in Catalunya, as well as Barcelona City Council and Helsinki City Council (the word 'decidim' means "let's decide" in Catalan).

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

I've been contacted by Andrew Ward of Incubator Co-op who look to be doing something similar in Australia. Andrew will be at Open 2018.

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

I've also just joined the P2P Foundation Wiki which is a crowdsourced collection of resources around Per to Peer (P2P) collaboration. A Platform 6 wiki is one of the ways that we could crowdsource the definitive collection of co-operative development resources.


Graham July 5th, 2018 07:57

I know that Nathan schneider is involved in the https://start.coop project in North America, and will also be at the event in London. There may be others, including Unfound people (I assume that project will be planning/considering a repeat exercise?). Maybe we should try to organise an informal gathering?


Graham July 5th, 2018 07:58

Happy to set up a wiki, or perhaps a wiki-ish area within the p6 website. Tell me a bit more about how you see it being used?

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

I was just about to ask you if we could easily do that.

Wiki MVP1


To provide a dynamic and up to date crowd-sourced central
resource for documents, links, providers, research, funding
related to co-operative development

  • Public facing

  • P6 members can edit and create content

  • Non-members can suggest content

At the very least it would provide an easy way for me to refer to
the many resources I am continually referencing.

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

It could also drive interest to P6

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

Probably best that there is an option to be a member of the Wiki without being a subscribing P6 member.

I'm happy to start populating a Wiki


Graham July 5th, 2018 09:31

I've sent a message to Nathan. I'm also in email dialogue with Greg Brodsky from start.coop so I'll mention it to him. Who's coming from Australia? Anthony McMullen?


Graham July 5th, 2018 09:32

Oh, no I see you've named Andrew Ward. Doh!

Ian Snaith

Ian Snaith July 5th, 2018 10:14

Wide access to the wiki would be great. I'd like to learn more about this whole project.


Graham July 7th, 2018 13:52

Nathan has responded positively to the idea of a meet up with us and incubator.coop.

I've also been in touch with Alanna Irving (Loomio co-founder, Enspiralist) now part of Open Collective. I was talking to her about 'Cooperation as a Service' perhaps as a development for Open Collective, perhaps in collaboration with Platform6, start.coop, incubator.coop. She is keen, and has also been having similar conversations with Nathan. Convergence is happening! She sent me this link to a doc by Nathan. Look familiar?


Graham July 7th, 2018 13:53

I've asked if anyone from Open Collective will be at the conference.


Graham July 8th, 2018 11:38

If you log in at https://platform6.coop/user you should now have access to create wiki pages. Start at https://platform6.coop/wiki/platform-6-wiki
Still some niceties to add in there in terms of user interface, but it lookd broadly functional. Also seems to be running a bit slow, for me at least, so I may need to beef things up and/or tweak some config

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

Cheers Graham. Can log in OK. Probably worth a chat before I
start creating. I'd like to make it open to non-members too once
it has some content.

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

I can't get the Sandstorm doc to load - do I need to create an account first?


Graham July 8th, 2018 13:09

It's working for me without doing anything. Takes a few seconds to load, mind you.


Graham July 8th, 2018 13:10

No worries. Just start writing. That's the hard bit. All else is fixable.

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

I'll need to know how to upload files @graham2


Graham July 8th, 2018 14:42

I've added a file attachment/upload field to the wiki page creation/edit form. You should be able to upload files of the specified types and max size. Once uploaded the page will display the url of the uploaded file, which you can then choose to embed in your text as a hyperlink.

I'll probably add a simple WYSIWYG editing toolbar in due course to the body field to make life a bit easier for formatting and links.


Graham July 8th, 2018 15:31

If you need more let me know

John Atherton

John Atherton July 19th, 2018 08:23

if you don't want to re-invent the wheel we have this under used wiki that can be used for anything. https://wiki.uk.coop/wiki/Main_Page

Mark Simmonds  (Co-op Culture & Platform 6)

Cheers John. I've made a start on a new wheel, but will take look.