Linked Open Data
Simon Tegg
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One of the interesting points to come out of the Communicating OpenApp thread was the current focus on Linked Open Data.
Open-App stakeholders unfamiliar with the concept might wonder what Linked Open Data is and what is has to do with "tools for commons-based peer production" and user value.
Use this thread to ask questions about Linked Open Data and what it means for Open-App. I'll update it with my own comments.
Resources:
Tim Berners-Lee TED talk on Linked Open Data
What is Linked Data? video
What is JSON-LD? video
JSON API :: A standard for building APIs in JSON
For more detailed and advanced topics you can check out http://www.euclid-project.eu/
Bob Haugen Tue 5 Aug 2014 10:37PM
@carolinesmalley - “25-30 years”? Little did I know...;-)
Mikey Wed 6 Aug 2014 12:20AM
@lynnfoster:
identifiers are URLs, yes.
the mechanism to distribute changes from the primary records to replica copies is independent of Linked Data. this is all an open question, however a possible solution that would work today is using Linked Data Fragments to do federated queries across "spaces" you trust to find the data you want, then if you want to update or listen to changes just do it directly to the "space" that owns the data. more mad science distributed data systems are gundb and secure-scuttlebutt.
elf Pavlik Wed 6 Aug 2014 12:35AM
I recommend watching those two videos:
Manu also coauthored RDFa spec and now leads http://web-payments.org effort (AFAIK thanks to which JSON-LD came to existence)
For more detailed and advanced topics you can check out http://www.euclid-project.eu/
Last but not least, I hope everyone developing for the web have taken some time to read: http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/
Caroline Smalley Wed 6 Aug 2014 3:41PM
@bobhaugen ...he's old!
Bob Haugen Wed 6 Aug 2014 3:45PM
@carolinesmalley - I'm 73. Older than dirt.
Bob Haugen Wed 6 Aug 2014 4:19PM
@elfpavlik - euclid looks pretty comprehensive, thanks!
Caroline Smalley Wed 6 Aug 2014 4:22PM
@elfpavlik thanks for the vids :) watched one.. and no I haven't read.. took a quick look, but to be honest, it's somewhat over my head!
okay.. so, in seeking to figure out what all this means in a practical / where's the relevance to me 'layman's' kinda way, here's where I'm at:
guess what i'm thinking is CM creates a backbone that apps (all bells and whistles aka 'features') plug into and end result is OpenApp Ecosystem. there could be multiple backbones for different platforms but if the backbones share transferable (translatable?!) protocols, then all data could be shared somewhat seamlessly. if we implement key words (data fields) that relate to the work / what we're trying to achieve, we could map relationships that would accelerate our abiltiy to get there. see idea of Data Analysis for creation of a Prosperity Graph (came up with the idea a while back when a data analyst asked me "what sort of graph would CM create?") http://thecitizensmedia.com/pub/section/data-analysis?id=1155
think i've sent this already, but here's a link to platform we've built. so what would the backbone comprise of? what's the skeleton, so to speak? thinking the answer = the cms, which we've designed to connect distributed data. blogs (with language translation) becomes an app, profiles... and so on. http://thecitizensmedia.com/pub/section/the-platform?id=1119
sorry guys.. bad to kindergarten?!
Caroline Smalley Wed 6 Aug 2014 4:24PM
@bobhaugen relativity + blackholes?!
Bob Haugen Wed 6 Aug 2014 4:29PM
@carolinesmalley - is the source for that stuff open? e.g. github repo, whatever? (Forgive me if it was obvious and I'm blind...)
Caroline Smalley · Tue 5 Aug 2014 10:10PM
I asked the programmer I work with (http://stackoverflow.com/users/479863/mu-is-too-short ) to explain this thread (am a layman when it comes these things!)
He pointed to Bob's comment saying:
"This pretty much sums it up: https://www.loomio.org/d/5WOvZfEq/linked-open-data#comment-174375
That "15 years" should be more like "25-30 years". Things like this predate the web by a long long time."