SUMMIT #8 - Where and How ?
Maud
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Dear all,
With the summer break time is flying by, and we already need to discuss the next Summit.
Summit #7 : feedbacks and inputs
It's first the opportunity to share with you the results of the survey of Summit #7.
To make a long story short (thanks for all your great feedbacks) :
- the last summit has been quite well appreciated, and the idea to make it in a remote area is to keep.
- A lot of people shared the feeling that it is too much content in too short a time, but people are rather suggesting to make it a bit longer than to try to cut some type of sessions or content.
- it would allow more "open time" to relax and connect and discover the place, more time to learn form each other, and more time to work in good conditions
You will also find in the document a FAQ session where we (I) tried to answer your questions.
Please don't hesitate to comment on the findings of the survey, either in this discussion or in the google doc.
Organizing next summit
The first idea was to do it in Marocco, and indeed we were all quite enthusiastic about it. But some concern has been raised, rightfully, concerning the ecologic impact of all the community taking a plane to go there. Not really consistent with our values, and quite bad in term of image just after COP21!
So first question : where else to you suggest to organize our december summit? Who would be happy to host it ?
second question : do you agree to make it longer, for example going from 3 core days to 5 core days? or do you have other suggestions about this ?
Thank you for taking time to discuss and aswer this! Summits are really important times for our community, so it's worth taking a few minutes to think about it and share your ideas, needs, suggestions :-)
Maud for the Summit team
David De Belleville Sat 5 Sep 2015 11:44PM
Thx Maud
yes to 5 days instead of 3. it seems problematic that no one has fully embraced hosting the next summit yet. Morocco could have been an option but I think we lack local support to make it happen. I'd say that we go anywhere someone can take care of it.
can we agree on the week? there was a discussion about sometime between Dec 11 & Dec 20? work in progress, xx
Albert Cañigueral Sun 6 Sep 2015 1:42PM
Dec 18th several of the OS Spain members (myself, Luis, Pako, etc.) are already booked for an event in Zaragoza. We already moved the date once so this day is out for part of the ES team
Places
* POC21 castle? ... maybe too cold in Dec? :)
- In Spain we could go south. Extremadura region (Badajoz) might be an option yet it is not easy to reach regarding carbon footprint. Best is fly to Portugal and take a bus I think. Angel is the leader of amazing http://www.espacioconvento.com/... also not so so hot: https://goo.gl/ZaFow7
Donatienne Lavoillotte Sun 6 Sep 2015 1:53PM
I agree for a summit between December 13th & 20th (just after COP21) or beginning of January if not possible in December.
For the place, I don't have any idea or proposition. About POC21 castle, it's already pretty cold in september, and the kitchen won't be there any more in december. But it could be an experience :)
David De Belleville Sun 6 Sep 2015 3:10PM
how about in/near Zaragoza? otherwise Dec 11-17?
Millemont (POC21) would be too uncomfortable during winter
Albert Cañigueral Sun 6 Sep 2015 3:24PM
@daviddebelleville not a bad idea. In fact the Zaragoza people are workng on a "mini fest" so having as many OS peeps around as possible makes sense. I will ask
Not sure about the logistics but they could get support from BCN/MAD/Extremadura teams at least.
Bezdomny Sun 6 Sep 2015 8:08PM
It's a 4 hour boat ride from Athens, but a friend own this set of villas in Koufonissia. I've spent some time. It could fit up to 60 people. There are several villas on the property. It's near Amorgos and Keros an ancient uninhabited island from the Cycladic period.
There are Airports that are closer in Naxos and Paros as well, with international flights.
Just and idea
David De Belleville Tue 8 Sep 2015 10:54AM
Hey, can you ask your friend about pricing (for the upcoming summit or a later one)? Looks good :)
Albert Cañigueral Tue 8 Sep 2015 11:12AM
Zaragoza option is real and they are interested, if there is interest on OuiShare side!
Francesca Tue 8 Sep 2015 12:25PM
I think that sounds interesting @albertcanigueral . I agree with @myriamboure that we should probably set the dates NOW, and then see. Just fyi, acutally we wanted to set date + place for the next summit in Salerno, but many things came in between and it simply was not possible....
I think between the 13 - 20 th of December is good!
Myriam Bouré · Fri 4 Sep 2015 11:09PM
Thank you @maud1 for the great feedback work from last summit, and opening up that conversation :-)
I think it's great to extend to 5 core days, but the we should maybe plan a bit ahead for the next summits so that we can book 5 days in a row... like it would be great if the date of next summit was fixed at the summit before, all together, even if we don't know where it is, at least we can book in our agendas and don't take any other commitments. Anyway I vote for 5 days in december if we manage to plan the date very quickly!!!
About the "where"... if we want to make it easier for people in Europe to reach the place by train/bus to limit our carbon footprint, then maybe somewhere in Eastern Europe could be good, if we manage to find a "local base" to host us. If we want to meet in a remote area, it doesn't matter so much if it's not in a country where there is already an active OuiShare community...? Of course it is better if it is hosted by someone from the community, but maybe we should not limit ourself to that option.
But on the other side, I think it's also a bit less inclusive to always focus on the part of the community which is in central Europe... and I thought Marocco was a good idea because 1/ It's not too expensive (can be discussed maybe...) and not far to go from central Europe so the big European community can easily go (not much more difficult than going to Calvanico I think ;-)) 2/ It can be great to include the emerging MENA community in the global gathering
Lots of global open-source projects organize regularly global hackaton where they invite all the contributors to gather, meet, and work together while having fun. They choose a cheap place (I heard quite some examples in eastern Europe) to make it the more accessible possible for everybody.
So I'm a bit "mixes feeling" as I'm very conscious about the environmental impact, but the inclusiveness is also important to me...