Loomio
Mon 10 Jun 2013 10:59AM

Editing comments

DS Danyl Strype Public Seen by 44

The conversation was originally about a feature to avoid repetition of the notification when the same user changes the context box multiple times to correct typos or add missed details.

The discussion has segued onto the topic of editing comments. There have been a number of opinions:

  • users should be able to edit their comments whenever they like and be trusted to use this power responsibly
  • users should be able to edit their comments during a given time window (eg 5min or 24 hours)
  • users should be able to edit their comments until another comment is posted on the same thread
  • users should be able to edit their comments whenever they like, but all changes are recorded in an edit history

Ben notes:

  • it's important to have an accurate record of a discussion where changes aren't hidden from view
  • it's not nice to get notifications about minor edits and typo fixes
  • it would be good for groups to be able to enable/disable comment editing

"Overall I'm hearing that people feel it would be good to have a way of fixing mistakes in comments, but it's important that this doesn't damage the integrity of a discussion."

Everyone seems to agree that the 'delete and repost' method of fixing typos we currently use needs replacing, with some method of comment editing. Some of us want the ability to edit limited, to protect the comment thread as an accurate record of deliberation (how the issue was shaped, and a decision arrived at), and feel an edit history creates more problems than it solves in this regard. @josefdaviescoates pointed out that 'delete and repost' annoys those who receive all comments as email, so the edit function needs to somehow deal with this.

NW

Nicolas Wormser
Disagree
Tue 18 Jun 2013 9:43AM

I'd argue that for integrity's sake, we should consider blocking any edit/delete action after the comment has been replied to. See my comment.

VM

vivien maidaborn
Abstain
Tue 18 Jun 2013 9:55AM

Happy to go with the flow, probably would prefer a shorter time but no strong feeling

AI

Alanna Irving
Disagree
Tue 18 Jun 2013 9:46PM

I agree with Nicolas - instead of a time limit, let's say no edits after any changes have been made to the thread (more comments, statements of position, etc).

DS

Danyl Strype
Abstain
Wed 19 Jun 2013 8:47AM

Considering that people seldom engage in realtime back-and-forth conversations on Loomio at this stage, a day seems about right. But if a week is a long time in politics, a day could be a long time in a discussion of a contentious issue.

JL

Jon Lemmon
Agree
Wed 19 Jun 2013 8:47AM

Yes - we just need to provide edit history and encourage our users to make the right kind of edits.

JL

Jon Lemmon
Agree
Wed 19 Jun 2013 8:48AM

Yes - we just need to provide edit history and encourage our users to make the right kind of edits. I wouldn't put a time-limit on it either

DS

Danyl Strype
Disagree
Wed 19 Jun 2013 8:57AM

I agree with Alana and Nicolas that any period of time is somewhat arbitrary, whereas allowing only the most recent comment to be edited allows for typos, and clarifications. Comment edits should not break the flow of a discussion.

I

iacocoba
Disagree
Fri 21 Jun 2013 12:05AM

It's useful to see the evolution of opinions in the search of consensus

DU

Deleted account
Disagree
Mon 24 Jun 2013 1:53AM

Sympathetic to what the proposal is try to achieve, as a minimum need to provide an edit history so people can see what changed if they need to. I would have no objection to not allowing edits after someone else has posted.

JD

Poll Created Sat 13 Jul 2013 10:39AM

Make it possible to preview comments, and to edit them. Closed Tue 16 Jul 2013 10:00AM

Outcome
by Josef Davies-Coates Mon 27 Feb 2017 10:26PM

It quickly became apparent that this was 2 proposals. I therefore created a more specific one just about editing comments and started a separeate discussion about previewing comments here https://www.loomio.org/discussions/5240

It is very easy to make a simple typo error and/ or to get markdown formatting wrong. At present the only way to edit a comment is to delete it and re-post it over and over. This process sends out loads of email to people which gives them a very bad first impression of Loomio as basically a spam engine.

I propose that a 'preview' option is added (to check formatting etc) and that comments be made editable (by whichever method devs can implement fastest).

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 1 JD
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 274 RG JV JL AI KC NW AT BK AC MB G DS N CR DS DMA S PS LG K

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