Loomio
February 9th, 2014 21:28

What are your top requested features and changes to Loomio?

Alanna Irving
Alanna Irving Public Seen by 426

Have a look at http://loomio.org/roadmap to see if your idea has already been suggested.

MM

Miroslav Mazel February 9th, 2014 21:42

I would love simple server installation

Theodore Taptiklis

Theodore Taptiklis February 9th, 2014 21:59

Not Loomio, but could a Yesandera pre-group, pre-commitment "Try this exercise" be a candidate?

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett February 9th, 2014 22:09

@miroslavmazel it's coming! We're expecting to deliver a Loomio docker in early April :)

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving February 9th, 2014 22:34

From Phill: Please add clear indication of who the Loomio group / sub-group Admin's are. We've struck a number of issues with trying to make changes to or moving groups / sub-groups and not knowing who all the Admins / Coordinators are. It would be great to have a "Coordinators" box above the "Members" box in the sidebar. 

I know this has been requested before... not sure if it's already in progress @richarddbartlett ?

Joshua Vial

Joshua Vial February 9th, 2014 22:41

  • Ability to add people to sub groups before they accept their invite
  • Forking proposals, quick polls, temperature checks
  • mobile app
  • api & oauth integration (e.g. we'd like to easily limit access to cobudget buckets by whether people are in the enspiral loomio group)
  • grouping and sorting passed proposals to build up a documentation of a groups 'policy and governance' rules. Sort of like living legislation for a group as opposed to proposals which are about decisions that aren't relevant once passed.
Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett February 9th, 2014 22:46

@alanna it's live, check the group members page

Silvia Zuur

Silvia Zuur February 9th, 2014 22:51

Would love loomio to be easier to use on mobile!

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett February 9th, 2014 22:57

Mobile is coming too, I have the prototype in my hands right this minute!

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving February 9th, 2014 23:09

Engagement stats and metrics so you can see who is participating at what levels over time, visualizations of decisions made, membership numbers, etc, on a timeline.

Silvia Zuur

Silvia Zuur February 10th, 2014 03:48

"Proper formatting" in the context and proposal part - not ## and * and _'s

Malcolm Colman-Shearer

Malcolm Colman-Shearer February 10th, 2014 04:45

I'd love to be able to find old discussions easily. Hash tags? (I think that's coming eh?) Be able to find discussions I've created, or I've commented in, or favourite them so I can get to them quickly.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett February 10th, 2014 04:46

Hells yes @silviazuur! I'd really like to move beyond Markdown formatting to a really slick in-context WYSIWG editor, e.g. like this beauty from medium.

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving February 10th, 2014 05:40

Vastly improved search! Search comments, proposals, by date, by author, etc.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett February 10th, 2014 05:46

Everything mentioned so far is great and totally feasible for a couple of interns to work on.

Danyl Strype

Danyl Strype February 10th, 2014 06:21

Export facility, so that a group who chooses to leave Loomio can take their data with them. Respecting users' data sovereignty is a crucial part of any web service.

I'm assuming at some point there will be other servers running the Loomio software. At the point, the export feature could be used in conjunction with an import feature to move a group from one Loomio instance to another.

Chris Taklis

Chris Taklis February 10th, 2014 10:54

i'll complain for few seconds...

"ideas", "WYSIWG editor" and some other, are fallen as ideas from August and September and haven't be ready yet, and other newer ideas are already ready...

When are all those ideas which are so old are going to be developed???

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving February 10th, 2014 11:08

Just because an idea is first doesn't mean it's best, or most important, or even possible to create. Also, it's a lot easier to think of an idea than to implement it.

But if we do get these interns from Google, maybe some of our dreams will indeed come true :)

Malcolm Colman-Shearer

Malcolm Colman-Shearer February 12th, 2014 21:34

More control over notifications would be handy too

Malcolm Colman-Shearer

Malcolm Colman-Shearer February 12th, 2014 21:38

@christaklis I'm in the office once a week and I see Loomio developers with smoke coming from their finger tips! (A figure of speech). There's LOTS of action happening here, just not always on your screen.

Chris Taklis

Chris Taklis February 13th, 2014 07:58

@malcolmshearer i'm sure there are working a lot, i mean the developers. but i am also wondering about some things, like ideas, when are they going to be live....

i hope i knew that programming language, so that i could help, but unfortunately i know only css and html and little javascript.

Tobias Eigen

Tobias Eigen April 22nd, 2014 03:12

I'd like to +1 @strypey request for import/export functionality. I'd love to see a model similar to wordpress where you can start quick and easy on loomio.org and then move to self-hosted as needs grow.

Tobias Eigen

Tobias Eigen April 22nd, 2014 14:25

As an aside here, maybe it exists elsewhere already so sorry if I am duplicating a discussion, but I'd like to ask: is there a way to do "make it happen" type campaigns to raise funds for specific features that the community wants? e.g. make a proposal, discuss what's involved in developing it, collect pledges, and then when the money is raised close it and add the feature to the backlog?

CiviCRM does something similar but in a long-handed way. There are discussions in their forums, then requirements definition on their wiki, and then finally they post a "make it happen" fundraising campaign. Usually it's led by one major project that pays for most of the funding but other users also pitch in until enough money is raised. Here's where the magic happens: https://civicrm.org/make-it-happen

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving April 22nd, 2014 21:45

It's a great idea @tobiaseigen - we're totally open to other people finding resources to help development along! It's just that here at HQ we don't have any capacity to coordinate and chase these kinds of opportunities right now. If you have a specific campaign in mind or some resourcing behind a feature you need, please talk to us and we'll try to work something out though!

Tobias Eigen

Tobias Eigen April 22nd, 2014 23:42

Thanks @alanna! I am liking your approach and it's been exciting getting to know you. I don't have any particular needs (or resources!) at the moment but am just trying to get my feet wet and understand your process so I can see where I might fit in and contribute.

Is there a roadmap up somewhere? Where is the code? I was not able to find these yet so forgive me if I am missing something obvious. :)

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving April 23rd, 2014 04:33

The code is here: http://github.com/loomio/loomio

We're in the process of developing a roadmap to deliver the promises we made in the crowdfunding campaign to deliver Loomio 1.0 later this year.

Neil Morris

Neil Morris April 29th, 2014 15:42

I'm looking forward to seeing the roadmap @alanna

Like @christaklis I wish that I could do more to help!

Michael Duane Mooring

Michael Duane Mooring April 30th, 2014 23:09

To vote with Tweets/texts.
Imagine voting with tweets for open communities/campaigns.

João Marcello Ortega

João Marcello Ortega April 30th, 2014 23:32

I 'd like to suggest to add a customizable form field in the Create Account panel to insert an unique information.

The intention of this is to prevent people creating fake accounts that may affect the results of votation. Many people create fake Facebook profiles (and other social networks) to vote or just to write opinion anonymously. If we can define that form field as mandatory and the number of characters, we may ask his/her ID number or other document used in real life.

Rosie

Rosie May 1st, 2014 23:18

Deeper social network integration. Especially in the way of being able to log in directly via Facebook (without e-mail verification), and notifying of Loomio activity via Facebook. (This would be useful to encourage members of a community group I help run, to partake in Loomio discussions.)

Michael Duane Mooring

Michael Duane Mooring May 2nd, 2014 03:30

@joshuavial +1 for API
@alanna, are there plans for this in Loomio 2.0? (along with some roadmap documentation).
:)

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving May 2nd, 2014 04:01

yep @robertguthrie is working on roadmapping really soon!

Tim McNamara

Tim McNamara May 9th, 2014 08:10

I would like to be able to customise the view of a group for viewers. At the moment, there's no way to really draw people into the discussion.

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zack May 9th, 2014 14:57

1.RSS feeds for new discussions and RSS subscriptions to existing ones.
2. Possibility to define tags to discussions in a Community - would ease searching and facilitate new visualisations.

Tim Rayner

Tim Rayner May 9th, 2014 23:34

Tried using Loomio for a live chat yesterday. Discovered that it doesn't automatically update - had to refresh to bring up new comments. When can we hope to see this fixed?

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving May 11th, 2014 04:30

@timrayner Live updating is a big feature of Loomio 1.0. @robertguthrie is already working on it! No idea about the timeline sorry.

Matthew Bartlett

Matthew Bartlett May 12th, 2014 21:34

@timrayner there's a roadmapping session for Loomio 1.0 happening today — after which, with a bit of luck, we'll know when that feature will arrive.

Noos Quest

Noos Quest June 8th, 2014 14:38

Do you think to make loomio or a group at other sites & blogs platforms ?
It's a step too much for many to log here...
It would be nice too if we could personalize the votes meanings & why not the colors & numbers of possibilities...

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving June 8th, 2014 21:29

Good ideas @noosquest ! We will be coming out with a big list of things that have been suggested very soon as part of the roadmapping process. Stay tuned!

Miguel Prados Rodriguez

Miguel Prados Rodriguez June 9th, 2014 16:51

For having a "kind of" parliament using Loomio that could be useful for organizations, three things are needed: a calendar with the closing dates for voting (like airbnb), a grouping method to organize discussions (not people) into categories, and the possibility to vote anonymously (once you belong to a group).

EG

Ed Galligan June 10th, 2014 18:10

Since it's not yet listed on the roadmap, I'd like to echo @joshuavial and @michaelduanemoorin 's comments on an API.

The "data import/export" entry I see on the roadmap Trello, and @noosquest 's comment about embeddables could both be covered easily if there's was an API to work with.

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving June 10th, 2014 21:50

@robertguthrie @richarddbartlett where does API sit on the roadmap?

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett June 11th, 2014 01:42

Thanks @edgalligan! If you (or @joshuavial) have any details about what you'd like to see in the API, get on this discussion over on Github Issues:

https://github.com/loomio/loomio/issues/1530

We're really looking to hear specific use cases and needs, which will help us design the API to be useful :)

Michael Duane Mooring

Michael Duane Mooring June 11th, 2014 05:26

It's in the backlog right now @alanna:
https://trello.com/c/XtZxw72v/85-api

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving June 11th, 2014 07:10

<3 thank you @michaelduanemoorin

It's a good example of something we'll need to discuss more when we start getting ready to implement it. Looks like we may have some computer science interns working with us on the API specifically soon so that should help progress it.

Quentin Grimaud

Quentin Grimaud June 12th, 2014 09:13

  • I want several types of votes! Until now, loomio enables only public yes/no proposals which is very limiting. A type of votes which would be great is Condorcet voting (a list of options, anyone can add one, and the user orders them by preference, and we can set that there are not only one winning options but X). Also anonymous voting would be cool. And these options could be activated per group or per proposal. An useful type of vote also would be electing special roles (coordinators, moderators, etc). So a user could candidate to such a proposal and also vote, and at the end of the proposal, the roles would be automatically given to the members by loomio. This probably needs other features like a quorum of voters.

  • Ability to fix proposal duration in the group preferences. Same for quorum and % of voters for a proposal to be accepted. So we could go from a almost-not-automatic proposal outcome to a fully automatic proposal outcome.

  • Liquid democracy features: a user could mandate another user for all the votes in a given group/subgroup/discussion, and take its mandate back at anytime.

EG

Ed Galligan June 15th, 2014 14:16

Not sure if this has been suggested elsewhere, but the lack of concurrent decision-making within a single thread seems really limiting right now.

If I create a proposal and schedule it to close within a week, that's 7 days whereby nothing else can be proposed or decided upon within that discussion (without creating an entirely new discussion thread elsewhere).

Michael Duane Mooring

Michael Duane Mooring June 15th, 2014 20:05

Agreed.
This is a big part missing. For those other slizes of the pie to represent other proposals. Cheers @edgalligan !

EG

Ed Galligan June 15th, 2014 23:27

@alanna I think what I'm asking for is a little simpler.

Those threads, as far as I can tell from reading them, propose one of two things:

1) Forking existing proposals and/or creating counter-proposals or alternative solutions within them.
2) Having multiple options within a single proposal (beyond a simple yes/no)

Both of the above would be really great, but I get the difficulty in agreeing the best implentation, as well as the development complexity.

All I'm asking for is the ability to create a new proposal before a previous one has closed. The 2nd proposal wouldn't need to build upon the first, or be in any way related.

For a (slightly over-simplified) example - say a discussion is centred around organising an event. One proposal could be to hold it on a specific date, another to have it in a specific venue. The two proposals are entirely separate, but why wait 'til we've agreed one to vote on the other?

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving June 16th, 2014 01:09

Just start a discussion about the date and another one about the venue :)

The point of having one proposal at a time is about focus. If you're talking about two different topics, start different discussions I reckon. Having them both on top of each other would be confusing.

EG

Ed Galligan June 16th, 2014 07:25

I think this can make sense in some cases, but certainly not all. If the topic is singular enough, splitting out discussions is just going to dilute the conversation and lead to people repeating themselves across threads (asking questions that have been answered elsewhere, etc.).

Perhaps if there were nested discussions it could work, but even that seems somewhat overkill.

Regarding one proposal at a time being about focus, surely the deadline on proposals is about creating that focus? If the deadline is a week away, it's not an urgent decision. Another proposal requiring more immediate focus may arise in the interim.

Ryan Gillespie

Ryan Gillespie June 20th, 2014 06:39

I'd like to see a new member role that would be able to participate in a discussion but would not be able to vote on any proposals. An example would be for a board of directors inviting someone to provide input and information to a discussion, but they are not voting members of the board.

Cobi

Cobi June 24th, 2014 05:13

It would be helpful to have a collection place for attachments; at the moment they seem buried within discussions.

Also records of group activities - akin to the notifications, but a record within the groups - would be useful, to see if there are people who are members of a group who are not engaged.

Richard D. Bartlett

Richard D. Bartlett June 24th, 2014 21:42

Great stuff thanks @cobi! Expect to see some of these group upgrades in the near future :)

Rob Guthrie

Rob Guthrie June 24th, 2014 23:30

The Attachments by group list would be a super easy job for a rails beginner. @cobi Would you like to mockup the page or describe it in a github issue. There are some rails developers looking for a reasonably easy job to do on Loomio. I'd be happy to provide more technical direction if you start it off.

The group activity thing is ON IT'S WAY. Sometime in the next 3 months I reckon.

Justin

Justin June 25th, 2014 04:17

Modifying the 'vote' options.

Our occupy groups get hit by the Block Caucus & convos often get sidetracked bc people dont read how the red hand is being used in the proposal.

Alanna Irving

Alanna Irving June 25th, 2014 05:19

@justin1 vote up this card: https://trello.com/c/KM1cupt1