Loomio
Sun 9 Feb 2014

What are your top requested features and changes to Loomio?

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Alanna Irving Public Seen by 426

Have a look at http://loomio.org/roadmap to see if your idea has already been suggested.

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Miroslav Mazel Sun 9 Feb 2014

I would love simple server installation

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Theodore Taptiklis Sun 9 Feb 2014

Not Loomio, but could a Yesandera pre-group, pre-commitment "Try this exercise" be a candidate?

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Richard D. Bartlett Sun 9 Feb 2014

@miroslavmazel it's coming! We're expecting to deliver a Loomio docker in early April :)

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Alanna Irving Sun 9 Feb 2014

From Phill: Please add clear indication of who the Loomio group / sub-group Admin's are. We've struck a number of issues with trying to make changes to or moving groups / sub-groups and not knowing who all the Admins / Coordinators are. It would be great to have a "Coordinators" box above the "Members" box in the sidebar. 

I know this has been requested before... not sure if it's already in progress @richarddbartlett ?

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Joshua Vial Sun 9 Feb 2014

  • Ability to add people to sub groups before they accept their invite
  • Forking proposals, quick polls, temperature checks
  • mobile app
  • api & oauth integration (e.g. we'd like to easily limit access to cobudget buckets by whether people are in the enspiral loomio group)
  • grouping and sorting passed proposals to build up a documentation of a groups 'policy and governance' rules. Sort of like living legislation for a group as opposed to proposals which are about decisions that aren't relevant once passed.
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Richard D. Bartlett Sun 9 Feb 2014

@alanna it's live, check the group members page

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Silvia Zuur Sun 9 Feb 2014

Would love loomio to be easier to use on mobile!

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Richard D. Bartlett Sun 9 Feb 2014

Mobile is coming too, I have the prototype in my hands right this minute!

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Alanna Irving Sun 9 Feb 2014

Engagement stats and metrics so you can see who is participating at what levels over time, visualizations of decisions made, membership numbers, etc, on a timeline.

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Silvia Zuur Mon 10 Feb 2014

"Proper formatting" in the context and proposal part - not ## and * and _'s

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Malcolm Colman-Shearer Mon 10 Feb 2014

I'd love to be able to find old discussions easily. Hash tags? (I think that's coming eh?) Be able to find discussions I've created, or I've commented in, or favourite them so I can get to them quickly.

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Richard D. Bartlett Mon 10 Feb 2014

Hells yes @silviazuur! I'd really like to move beyond Markdown formatting to a really slick in-context WYSIWG editor, e.g. like this beauty from medium.

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Alanna Irving Mon 10 Feb 2014

Vastly improved search! Search comments, proposals, by date, by author, etc.

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Richard D. Bartlett Mon 10 Feb 2014

Everything mentioned so far is great and totally feasible for a couple of interns to work on.

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Danyl Strype Mon 10 Feb 2014

Export facility, so that a group who chooses to leave Loomio can take their data with them. Respecting users' data sovereignty is a crucial part of any web service.

I'm assuming at some point there will be other servers running the Loomio software. At the point, the export feature could be used in conjunction with an import feature to move a group from one Loomio instance to another.

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Chris Taklis Mon 10 Feb 2014

i'll complain for few seconds...

"ideas", "WYSIWG editor" and some other, are fallen as ideas from August and September and haven't be ready yet, and other newer ideas are already ready...

When are all those ideas which are so old are going to be developed???

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Alanna Irving Mon 10 Feb 2014

Just because an idea is first doesn't mean it's best, or most important, or even possible to create. Also, it's a lot easier to think of an idea than to implement it.

But if we do get these interns from Google, maybe some of our dreams will indeed come true :)

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Malcolm Colman-Shearer Wed 12 Feb 2014

More control over notifications would be handy too

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Malcolm Colman-Shearer Wed 12 Feb 2014

@christaklis I'm in the office once a week and I see Loomio developers with smoke coming from their finger tips! (A figure of speech). There's LOTS of action happening here, just not always on your screen.

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Chris Taklis Thu 13 Feb 2014

@malcolmshearer i'm sure there are working a lot, i mean the developers. but i am also wondering about some things, like ideas, when are they going to be live....

i hope i knew that programming language, so that i could help, but unfortunately i know only css and html and little javascript.

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Tobias Eigen Tue 22 Apr 2014

I'd like to +1 @strypey request for import/export functionality. I'd love to see a model similar to wordpress where you can start quick and easy on loomio.org and then move to self-hosted as needs grow.

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Tobias Eigen Tue 22 Apr 2014

As an aside here, maybe it exists elsewhere already so sorry if I am duplicating a discussion, but I'd like to ask: is there a way to do "make it happen" type campaigns to raise funds for specific features that the community wants? e.g. make a proposal, discuss what's involved in developing it, collect pledges, and then when the money is raised close it and add the feature to the backlog?

CiviCRM does something similar but in a long-handed way. There are discussions in their forums, then requirements definition on their wiki, and then finally they post a "make it happen" fundraising campaign. Usually it's led by one major project that pays for most of the funding but other users also pitch in until enough money is raised. Here's where the magic happens: https://civicrm.org/make-it-happen

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Alanna Irving Tue 22 Apr 2014

It's a great idea @tobiaseigen - we're totally open to other people finding resources to help development along! It's just that here at HQ we don't have any capacity to coordinate and chase these kinds of opportunities right now. If you have a specific campaign in mind or some resourcing behind a feature you need, please talk to us and we'll try to work something out though!

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Tobias Eigen Tue 22 Apr 2014

Thanks @alanna! I am liking your approach and it's been exciting getting to know you. I don't have any particular needs (or resources!) at the moment but am just trying to get my feet wet and understand your process so I can see where I might fit in and contribute.

Is there a roadmap up somewhere? Where is the code? I was not able to find these yet so forgive me if I am missing something obvious. :)

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Alanna Irving Wed 23 Apr 2014

The code is here: http://github.com/loomio/loomio

We're in the process of developing a roadmap to deliver the promises we made in the crowdfunding campaign to deliver Loomio 1.0 later this year.

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Neil Morris Tue 29 Apr 2014

I'm looking forward to seeing the roadmap @alanna

Like @christaklis I wish that I could do more to help!

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Michael Duane Mooring Wed 30 Apr 2014

To vote with Tweets/texts.
Imagine voting with tweets for open communities/campaigns.

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João Marcello Ortega Wed 30 Apr 2014

I 'd like to suggest to add a customizable form field in the Create Account panel to insert an unique information.

The intention of this is to prevent people creating fake accounts that may affect the results of votation. Many people create fake Facebook profiles (and other social networks) to vote or just to write opinion anonymously. If we can define that form field as mandatory and the number of characters, we may ask his/her ID number or other document used in real life.

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Rosie Thu 1 May 2014

Deeper social network integration. Especially in the way of being able to log in directly via Facebook (without e-mail verification), and notifying of Loomio activity via Facebook. (This would be useful to encourage members of a community group I help run, to partake in Loomio discussions.)

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Michael Duane Mooring Fri 2 May 2014

@joshuavial +1 for API
@alanna, are there plans for this in Loomio 2.0? (along with some roadmap documentation).
:)

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Alanna Irving Fri 2 May 2014

yep @robertguthrie is working on roadmapping really soon!

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Tim McNamara Fri 9 May 2014

I would like to be able to customise the view of a group for viewers. At the moment, there's no way to really draw people into the discussion.

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zack Fri 9 May 2014

1.RSS feeds for new discussions and RSS subscriptions to existing ones.
2. Possibility to define tags to discussions in a Community - would ease searching and facilitate new visualisations.

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Tim Rayner Fri 9 May 2014

Tried using Loomio for a live chat yesterday. Discovered that it doesn't automatically update - had to refresh to bring up new comments. When can we hope to see this fixed?

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Alanna Irving Sun 11 May 2014

@timrayner Live updating is a big feature of Loomio 1.0. @robertguthrie is already working on it! No idea about the timeline sorry.

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Matthew Bartlett Mon 12 May 2014

@timrayner there's a roadmapping session for Loomio 1.0 happening today — after which, with a bit of luck, we'll know when that feature will arrive.

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Noos Quest Sun 8 Jun 2014

Do you think to make loomio or a group at other sites & blogs platforms ?
It's a step too much for many to log here...
It would be nice too if we could personalize the votes meanings & why not the colors & numbers of possibilities...

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Alanna Irving Sun 8 Jun 2014

Good ideas @noosquest ! We will be coming out with a big list of things that have been suggested very soon as part of the roadmapping process. Stay tuned!

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Miguel Prados Rodriguez Mon 9 Jun 2014

For having a "kind of" parliament using Loomio that could be useful for organizations, three things are needed: a calendar with the closing dates for voting (like airbnb), a grouping method to organize discussions (not people) into categories, and the possibility to vote anonymously (once you belong to a group).

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Ed Galligan Tue 10 Jun 2014

Since it's not yet listed on the roadmap, I'd like to echo @joshuavial and @michaelduanemoorin 's comments on an API.

The "data import/export" entry I see on the roadmap Trello, and @noosquest 's comment about embeddables could both be covered easily if there's was an API to work with.

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Alanna Irving Tue 10 Jun 2014

@robertguthrie @richarddbartlett where does API sit on the roadmap?

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Richard D. Bartlett Wed 11 Jun 2014

Thanks @edgalligan! If you (or @joshuavial) have any details about what you'd like to see in the API, get on this discussion over on Github Issues:

https://github.com/loomio/loomio/issues/1530

We're really looking to hear specific use cases and needs, which will help us design the API to be useful :)

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Michael Duane Mooring Wed 11 Jun 2014

It's in the backlog right now @alanna:
https://trello.com/c/XtZxw72v/85-api

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Alanna Irving Wed 11 Jun 2014

<3 thank you @michaelduanemoorin

It's a good example of something we'll need to discuss more when we start getting ready to implement it. Looks like we may have some computer science interns working with us on the API specifically soon so that should help progress it.

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Quentin Grimaud Thu 12 Jun 2014

  • I want several types of votes! Until now, loomio enables only public yes/no proposals which is very limiting. A type of votes which would be great is Condorcet voting (a list of options, anyone can add one, and the user orders them by preference, and we can set that there are not only one winning options but X). Also anonymous voting would be cool. And these options could be activated per group or per proposal. An useful type of vote also would be electing special roles (coordinators, moderators, etc). So a user could candidate to such a proposal and also vote, and at the end of the proposal, the roles would be automatically given to the members by loomio. This probably needs other features like a quorum of voters.

  • Ability to fix proposal duration in the group preferences. Same for quorum and % of voters for a proposal to be accepted. So we could go from a almost-not-automatic proposal outcome to a fully automatic proposal outcome.

  • Liquid democracy features: a user could mandate another user for all the votes in a given group/subgroup/discussion, and take its mandate back at anytime.

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Ed Galligan Sun 15 Jun 2014

Not sure if this has been suggested elsewhere, but the lack of concurrent decision-making within a single thread seems really limiting right now.

If I create a proposal and schedule it to close within a week, that's 7 days whereby nothing else can be proposed or decided upon within that discussion (without creating an entirely new discussion thread elsewhere).

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Michael Duane Mooring Sun 15 Jun 2014

Agreed.
This is a big part missing. For those other slizes of the pie to represent other proposals. Cheers @edgalligan !

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Ed Galligan Sun 15 Jun 2014

@alanna I think what I'm asking for is a little simpler.

Those threads, as far as I can tell from reading them, propose one of two things:

1) Forking existing proposals and/or creating counter-proposals or alternative solutions within them.
2) Having multiple options within a single proposal (beyond a simple yes/no)

Both of the above would be really great, but I get the difficulty in agreeing the best implentation, as well as the development complexity.

All I'm asking for is the ability to create a new proposal before a previous one has closed. The 2nd proposal wouldn't need to build upon the first, or be in any way related.

For a (slightly over-simplified) example - say a discussion is centred around organising an event. One proposal could be to hold it on a specific date, another to have it in a specific venue. The two proposals are entirely separate, but why wait 'til we've agreed one to vote on the other?

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Alanna Irving Mon 16 Jun 2014

Just start a discussion about the date and another one about the venue :)

The point of having one proposal at a time is about focus. If you're talking about two different topics, start different discussions I reckon. Having them both on top of each other would be confusing.

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Ed Galligan Mon 16 Jun 2014

I think this can make sense in some cases, but certainly not all. If the topic is singular enough, splitting out discussions is just going to dilute the conversation and lead to people repeating themselves across threads (asking questions that have been answered elsewhere, etc.).

Perhaps if there were nested discussions it could work, but even that seems somewhat overkill.

Regarding one proposal at a time being about focus, surely the deadline on proposals is about creating that focus? If the deadline is a week away, it's not an urgent decision. Another proposal requiring more immediate focus may arise in the interim.

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Ryan Gillespie Fri 20 Jun 2014

I'd like to see a new member role that would be able to participate in a discussion but would not be able to vote on any proposals. An example would be for a board of directors inviting someone to provide input and information to a discussion, but they are not voting members of the board.

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Cobi Tue 24 Jun 2014

It would be helpful to have a collection place for attachments; at the moment they seem buried within discussions.

Also records of group activities - akin to the notifications, but a record within the groups - would be useful, to see if there are people who are members of a group who are not engaged.

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Richard D. Bartlett Tue 24 Jun 2014

Great stuff thanks @cobi! Expect to see some of these group upgrades in the near future :)

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Rob Guthrie Tue 24 Jun 2014

The Attachments by group list would be a super easy job for a rails beginner. @cobi Would you like to mockup the page or describe it in a github issue. There are some rails developers looking for a reasonably easy job to do on Loomio. I'd be happy to provide more technical direction if you start it off.

The group activity thing is ON IT'S WAY. Sometime in the next 3 months I reckon.

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Justin Wed 25 Jun 2014

Modifying the 'vote' options.

Our occupy groups get hit by the Block Caucus & convos often get sidetracked bc people dont read how the red hand is being used in the proposal.

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Alanna Irving Wed 25 Jun 2014

@justin1 vote up this card: https://trello.com/c/KM1cupt1