What is the NSFW tag and when we should use it?

I'd agree Goob about how to define the #nsfw tag. But what I dislike on Diaspora is, that the #nsfw tag is such a very special hashtag with a special feature depening on it. For example I've seen advent calendars, in which users posted everyday a nice christmas pic, and tag is #nsfw so that the other users need to "open" it just like in a traditional advent calendar. So they tagged the posting with #nsfw, although they only wanted the feature of "opening" a posting. This is quite strange to me.

We could easily remove the special feature for #nsfw-postings, if we would have custom streams like in libertree. Then I could create my custom stream for my worktime, which filters each posting out that has the tags #nswf #porn or #catcontent.

Rasmus, I guess another tag could be created such as '#hidepost' which hides the post without marking it as #nsfw.

I agree having user options to filter out content would be great. I think that's a separate discussion, though, and I think there have been discussions on Github about how that might be implemented.

Filtering

So filtering(or custom streams) is the name of the thing I was talking about. @goob ,I found this issue that talks about some kind of technique to filter out by voting, and this one but all are closed and I found no vestige of a solution.

Should I open a new discussion here(loomio.org)? Where I can find more info about this?

NSFW tag

Summarizing:

• NSFW tag has to be inserted by oneself and depends on oneself and ToS criteria.
• By definition: Should be applied when the content may offend people sensibility or unsuitable for public and work situations.
• The name of the tag may be changed later, for example: #hidepost, #port, etc.
• The account should have the nsfw option deactivated by default.
• Should hide all the post or just the image? what do you think?

I’m still asking myself if it is fine that this tags depends on the owner of the post. Suppose this problem: One person post porn without that tag, and you request it but denies, but for some reason you don’t want to block the person because post good stuff too, what’s the procedure to be done there? Filtering or custom streams seems a good option.

Still can’t find ToS page for joindiaspora.com. Where it should be?

BTW, thanks for participating and make my ideas clearer!

I’m still asking myself if it is fine that this tags depends on the owner of the post.

Well, one day we should also allow tagging of other people's postings. That would make these features perfect. But it's truly another feature with different problems.

@christiangimenez If someone posts content that is offending but refuses to use the #nsfw tag then not much choice than to block this person. Of course in the future we surely will somehow improve the way to build ones stream and maybe even like Rasmus said options to tag other peoples posts. But we have to be careful with all these decisions to keep the system maintainable and clear to users - and of course make sure everything works in a distributed environment.

I think there is a feature request to have a ToS that users need to accept when signing up (of course podmins can modify it for their pod). It hasn't been done yet so any ToS's are totally defined in some custom way by pods who have done that. Never seen any for joindiaspora.com.

thanks @jasonrobinson !

The custom stream feature is a great idea. Should I make a proposal for voting for this feature? As a newbie in Loomio I have to ask for every move! :P

Is it useful to talk about the new features and how it could be implemented now? So decisions are ready at the moment of implementing.
Or we should talk later, when devs are ready?

What is the next move for this subject? :-S

Christian, actually the custom streams would be a new feature and it is not directly part of this discussion. If you want to implement this feature, just do it and stay in touch with the developers on github. If you cannot implement it, you don't need to start a voting, because it wouldn't fasten things up. The few developers don't need votings to code something. On loom.io proposals are just for making decisions in unclear topics, when someone doesn't know what or how to do something.

But if you really want to discuss custom streams at first (with mockups and stuff) you can start another thread here.

Nah! If they're going to implement custom streams, then it's not necessary @rasmusfuhse

Think I should wait for devs (I cannot implement it :-( ).

Thanks!

I think we should use at least 3 different tags : erotic/porn/sexuality, nudity, graphical violence (war images for exemple…) and have the choice to automatic filter each or them separatly.

#nsfw is just not enough precise and explicit…

I think it's perfectly precise and explicit enough: it means 'this material may not be appropriate for you to view while you're working'. That is very useful for a lot of people, who might view Diaspora while at work.

If you want to use specific tags for things such as porn, graphic violence and so on in addition to the nsfw tag which will hide the post from the streams of people who may not want to view it, that's fine. But let's not get rid of nsfw, which has a very specific and necessary role.