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Tue 18 Jun 2013 8:29PM

What is the NSFW tag and when we should use it?

CG Christian Giménez Public Seen by 108

I found some post that deserves the NSFW tag, but some post with half-nudity enter in discussion if it is NSFW or not, and sometimes the meaning of the post express a strong feeling or protest.

For example, this post doesn't deserves all the NSFW effects because is a protest and so has strong meaning, and this one.

Some people(or me?) may don't know how to use this feature.

Summarizing, I want to ask you two things:

  • Where we should use this feature?
  • How it should apply? Should hide all the post or just the image?
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Brent Bartlett Tue 18 Jun 2013 8:33PM

Why is it set at the profile level, instead of on a per-post basis? Is this due to a technical issue, or by design?

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 18 Jun 2013 8:37PM

@brentbartlett it can be set profile level (never understood why - it's just confusing to new users) - but also on post level by tagging it #nsfw.

IMHO people should just tag #nsfw in their honest common sense ability. Of course some people are missing this common sense, and some people are too careful. Also people get offended by different things.

If it's not against pod TOS (some have those I think) or directly illegal, and someone doesn't tag their posts as #nsfw and they offend you - just block the person :)

CG

Christian Giménez Tue 18 Jun 2013 8:37PM

By design you can set it at profile level.

The question may be this: why is activated by default? :P

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Brent Bartlett Tue 18 Jun 2013 8:39PM

@jasonrobinson Yah, it's just like any other social network, in that respect. I thought I'd tried the #nsfw thing, and it hadn't worked. I'll try it again.

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 18 Jun 2013 8:42PM

@brentbartlett well except on D* almost anything is up for posting - unlike on many social networks ;)

@christiangimenez AFAIK it shouldn't be on by default - if it is it's prob a bug?

EG

Erwan Guyader Tue 18 Jun 2013 8:45PM

@christiangimenez it might depend on your pod. I have never created an account which was set as NSFW by default.

I do believe users should set the nsfw tag by themselves and comply to their pod's ToS but the problem coming with decentralization is that another, connected pod might have different ToS.
Maybe we could have a moderation system to set the nsfw tag on your own pod (as a podmin) for a post and/or user ?! It wouldn't affect the way it is displayed on other pods.

CG

Christian Giménez Tue 18 Jun 2013 11:09PM

@jasonrobinson At joindiaspora.com the nsfw was on by default when I created the account, up to some months ago it still was on by default...

@erwanguyader Maybe I should set a pod for that and set whatever I like, but really I'm concern about other people that are working or with kids.

I was thinking, that the other possibility is to ignore and then watch that user stream when I can. The problem is that, I see some users that has good stuff, art, interesting photos, but from time to time appears nudity.

I'm thinking if there is an option that do not ignores the user, just set the nsfw but only for the own account, and don't affect others people account's preferences. With this I can set "this person has NSFW" and I can see that he posted something but not the content; this settings only apply to me, other people are not affected. Maybe is asking for too much, isn't it?

About where we should use nsfw, is it advisable to use when nudity is involved? what kind of nudity?(there are some pictures that are artistic and involves nudity)

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goob Tue 18 Jun 2013 11:13PM

My understanding of NSFW is as it suggests from the name, 'not safe for work' - in other words, if you can't be sure that it would be fine for anyone to view your post while they're at work in an office, with their boss possibly looking over their shoulder at any moment, it should be marked 'nsfw'.

Basically you're protecting people from potentially getting in trouble for viewing inappropriate material if they're browsing Diaspora while at work - they won't want anything to appear on their screen that a perhaps conservative boss or colleague might take offence at.

EG

Erwan Guyader Tue 18 Jun 2013 11:13PM

@christiangimenez what falls under Not Suitable For Work completely depends on you and your pod's ToS.
It is the same for other people and what you see in your stream depends on what others think is suitable or not.

CG

Christian Giménez Tue 18 Jun 2013 11:42PM

@erwanguyader That's right, but the thing is that not all people use the nsfw, others use it misunderstanding it, and others just use it when they think is porn.

The problem is that the user for theirs stream can nsfw his/her own post, other people has only one possibility: ignore them and add into his/her own black list or hide the post.

About the ToS... where is the ToS in joindiaspora.com? can't find them... :-S

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