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Mon 17 Dec 2018 11:18PM

How people join Hackland

JK Jorån Kikke Public Seen by 38

I'm gunna propose some changes to how people join Hackland

basically to protect our space from being overwhelmed by lots of new people who break everything and go away

Idea 1 - 'casual koha membership' goes away - we have enough normal members to survive and actual membership is really easy to get

Idea 2 - we only give out the door code over slack, so new people must have slack setup and working

Idea 3 - on the 'Join Hackland' form we ask "What are you excited about useing the space for?"

we also state here that joining Hackland for one off, time restricted projects, is not really the vibe of the space

for these there are plenty of commercial spaces you can hire which are setup to heal all the tools

stuff I'm hoping to fix: 3-4 of our long term members have felt that their tools were in danger and have taken them out of the space

this has left the remaining tools in even more danger and left a bad feeling of 'well I should take mine too then, but I don't want to completely destroy Hackland"

thoughts?

Added a bunch of proposals

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Helena Tue 18 Dec 2018 5:30AM

I like all these ideas, people that pay membership into the koha jar are even more elusive, so commiting to some transactions and a slack account seems rather fair. Hackland is a hackspace not a rental workshop, we shouldn’t feel obliged to accomodate temporary members but the other way round. Really don’t want another 3-day member dump a tyre on us 3:

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cstewart000 Tue 18 Dec 2018 7:12AM

I am for all of this. I have a lot of tools invested and would be happier to see tighter controls.

JK

Poll Created Tue 18 Dec 2018 7:18AM

Stop people joining for one off, time critical projects Closed Tue 25 Dec 2018 7:02AM

Outcome
by Jorån Kikke Sat 19 Oct 2019 8:08PM

on the 'Join Hackland' form we ask "What are you excited about useing the space for?"

we also state here that joining Hackland for one off, time restricted projects, is not really the vibe of the space

for these there are plenty of commercial spaces you can hire which are setup to heal all the tools

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 66.7% 2 JK CG
Abstain 33.3% 1 B
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 32 MC DO H JVD JH JS K B J J HS DU BF SC JL K DP DR C

3 of 35 people have participated (8%)

JK

Jorån Kikke
Agree
Tue 18 Dec 2018 7:26AM

People rushing to build one thing and then leaving has done a fair bit of damage and we're not setup for this. Plenty of commercial workshop spaces are

B

baptiste
Abstain
Wed 19 Dec 2018 1:58AM

I think we can introduce them to the space better - telling them what and how they can do things rather than telling what they cannot do.

JK

Poll Created Tue 18 Dec 2018 7:19AM

Stop long term casual koha membership Closed Tue 25 Dec 2018 7:02AM

We have enough normal members to survive and actual membership is really easy to get, there's no reason for people not to sign up properly

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 4 B JK CG RC
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 31 MC DO H JVD JH JS K B J J HS DU BF SC JL K DP DR C

4 of 35 people have participated (11%)

JK

Jorån Kikke
Agree
Tue 18 Dec 2018 7:22AM

I dislike this one the most - I don't want to discourage people dropping in because they're curious, but I do want to discourage "Cheap workshop for a week" people

JK

Poll Created Tue 18 Dec 2018 7:21AM

Only give code over Slack Closed Tue 25 Dec 2018 7:02AM

To keep it so people know how we communicate, only give people to door code in a private message via Slack, this makes sure they're setup to get messages

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 80.0% 4 B JK JH RC
Abstain 20.0% 1 CG
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 30 MC DO H JVD JS K B J J HS DU BF SC JL K DP DR C MS

5 of 35 people have participated (14%)

JK

Jorån Kikke
Agree
Tue 18 Dec 2018 7:21AM

This seems easy and I already try and do this, but lets make it a clear part of the process

CG

Courtenay Gasking
Abstain
Tue 18 Dec 2018 10:13PM

it raises the bar a bit for non tech / older people maybe? but also how many of those do we have on the door code

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