Multi-winner adaption of STAR voting
SRV-PR (the method that is most commonly brought up when disusing the proportional multi-winner version of STAR voting) is not even proportional. If you want further proof of this, check out the example Warren created where it can fail to elect a Democrat when 49% of voters give a max score to the Democrat and min stars to the Republicans: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/electionscience/proportional$20srv$3F%7Csort:date/electionscience/aOMyxkoey4Q/KepDTrY7AwAJ (the example is mentioned in Warren's first comment in the linked discussion). It can meet relaxed definitions of proportionality in which each party runs clone candidates equal to the number of seats up for grabs, however the only reason these relaxed definitions of proportionality work is because they rely on candidate cloning which is something that turns SRV-PR into RRV just like it turns STAR into score.
Obviously STAR voting advocates shouldn't advocate for a broken "proportional" voting method that isn't even proportional. But they still need a proportional multi-winner version of STAR voting method that they can mention to as a long term goal when ever the topic of proportionality comes up.
Here is a discussion about what that method should be: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/electionscience/HkgoqQiGN4k
Adam Zielinski
Tue 4 Jun 2019 12:48AM
Too complicated
parker friedland Wed 11 Apr 2018 9:18AM
Anybody who disagrees with the idea that the method with the most agrees minus disagrees should become the new STAR-PR can effectively disagree with that idea by giving the broken SRV-"PR" method an approve and every other option a disapprove. Thus, there is no need for another poll on whether we should have an election on the future of STAR voting. While some might argue that equal vote's STAR voting poll should be used to decide STAR-PR's own fate, I like this multiple proposal idea better because people can constantly submitted new multi-winner versions of STAR voting without having to create a new STAR poll every time a new idea is proposed. Also, the ability to explain your votes and possibly persuade others to change their own votes is a nice feature as well.
Poll Created Thu 12 Apr 2018 8:26AM
RRV with smothe transition from score voting to STAR voting Closed Tue 3 Nov 2020 8:04AM
Normal SRV-"PR", except that each round, the number of ballots the candidate with the second highest score needs to be preferred on to beat the candidate with the highest score gets greater and greater. In the last round, the candidate with the 2nd highest score would only need to be preferred on 1/2 of ballots to win (The last time I forgot to mention that ballots that are re-weighted would still count less to whether one candidate is preferred to another), on the the 2nd to last round, they would need to be preferred on 2/3rds of ballots, on the 3rd to last round, 3/4th of ballots, on the forth to last round, 4/5th's of ballots, on the 5th to last round, 5/6th of ballots, etc.
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 0.0% | 0 | |
Abstain | 75.0% | 3 | ||
Disagree | 25.0% | 1 | ||
Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
Undecided | 0% | 0 |
4 of 4 people have participated (100%)
parker friedland
Thu 12 Apr 2018 8:26AM
Not sure if it is proportional
parker friedland
Thu 12 Apr 2018 8:28AM
Not sure if it is proportional.
Sara Wolf
Tue 1 May 2018 8:50AM
I don't get what you are saying here.
Adam Zielinski
Tue 4 Jun 2019 12:47AM
Too complicated
Poll Created Thu 12 Apr 2018 8:35AM
Broader definition of STAR-PR Closed Mon 2 Nov 2020 8:03AM
Why don't we just refer to STAR-PR as a broader category of proportional voting methods where each voting method that satisfies Warren's Strong PR criterion while naturally reducing to STAR voting in the single winner case is it's own version of STAR-PR.
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 40.0% | 2 | |
Abstain | 20.0% | 1 | ||
Disagree | 40.0% | 2 | ||
Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
Undecided | 0% | 0 |
5 of 5 people have participated (100%)
parker friedland
Thu 12 Apr 2018 8:36AM
Supporters of different proportional STAR voting methods could all unite under the same name.
parker friedland · Wed 11 Apr 2018 9:00AM
Are we all in agreement that the method with the most agrees minus disagrees (net approval voting) should become STAR-PR?