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Tue 10 Apr 2018 5:40AM

Multi-winner adaption of STAR voting

PF parker friedland Public Seen by 29

SRV-PR (the method that is most commonly brought up when disusing the proportional multi-winner version of STAR voting) is not even proportional. If you want further proof of this, check out the example Warren created where it can fail to elect a Democrat when 49% of voters give a max score to the Democrat and min stars to the Republicans: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/electionscience/proportional$20srv$3F%7Csort:date/electionscience/aOMyxkoey4Q/KepDTrY7AwAJ (the example is mentioned in Warren's first comment in the linked discussion). It can meet relaxed definitions of proportionality in which each party runs clone candidates equal to the number of seats up for grabs, however the only reason these relaxed definitions of proportionality work is because they rely on candidate cloning which is something that turns SRV-PR into RRV just like it turns STAR into score.

Obviously STAR voting advocates shouldn't advocate for a broken "proportional" voting method that isn't even proportional. But they still need a proportional multi-winner version of STAR voting method that they can mention to as a long term goal when ever the topic of proportionality comes up.

Here is a discussion about what that method should be: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/electionscience/HkgoqQiGN4k

PF

parker friedland
Agree
Thu 12 Apr 2018 8:28AM

It's defiantly the simplest multi-winner adaption of STAR voting. And the last round of RRV generally matters the most.

SW

Sara Wolf
Abstain
Tue 1 May 2018 8:55AM

We've discussed RRV with an added reweighted runoff for the last seat only. Is that what you mean here?

AZ

Adam Zielinski
Agree
Tue 4 Jun 2019 12:53AM

Easiest to explain and comprehend and tabulate. True PR with a STAR twist at the end.

PF

Poll Created Tue 10 Apr 2018 6:01AM

Current SRV-"PR" method Closed Fri 20 Nov 2020 8:04AM

Elect the STAR winner each time while using RRV's re-weighting equation each round

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 0.0% 0  
Abstain 33.3% 1 SW
Disagree 66.7% 2 AZ PF
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 0  

3 of 3 people have participated (100%)

PF

parker friedland
Disagree
Tue 10 Apr 2018 6:08AM

Nope.

SW

Sara Wolf
Abstain
Tue 1 May 2018 8:53AM

To clarify. STAR-PR is the same as SRV-PR. It just got renamed. If you want to compare variations it would help me if you describe details. ie. runoff every round or certain rounds. Reweighting every round or certain rounds...

AZ

Adam Zielinski
Disagree
Tue 4 Jun 2019 12:52AM

Not really PR; overly complicated

PF

Poll Created Wed 11 Apr 2018 8:55AM

MSPAV + STAR voting Closed Tue 3 Nov 2020 8:04AM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 0.0% 0  
Abstain 75.0% 3 SW WW PF
Disagree 25.0% 1 AZ
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 0  

4 of 4 people have participated (100%)

PF

parker friedland
Abstain
Wed 11 Apr 2018 8:55AM

?

SW

Sara Wolf
Abstain
Tue 1 May 2018 8:51AM

What are you proposing?

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