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Sat 11 Apr 2020 1:48PM

Murmurations protocol

OS Oli SB Public Seen by 225

Given it's unlikely we will ever all (want to) collaborate on the same 'platform' it seems essential to develop an open protocol to share information about and between all the various projects and organisations that are working to build the commons.

Murmurations is an initial attempt to create such a protocol...

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Hakanto Sun 28 Jun 2020 5:05AM

This protocol is a brilliant idea and seems deeply important. During my cooperatives research over the last few months, I've encountered a variety of "solidarity economy" databases which had broken links and various holes (and no clear sense of when they were last updated). Murmurations would truly help, and would significatly ease the workload for those coordinating these kinds of projects.

Is anyone from the Murmurations project in touch with Z of Black Socialists of America who is working on the Dual Power Map? Murmurations may be deeply helpful for that project. Z has recently been added to the Board at Resonate, where I've been doing a lot of brainstorming and analysis of the platform as a user and musician. I'm happy to reach out to Z if the connections yet haven't been made

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Oli SB Mon 29 Jun 2020 4:53PM

please do make an intro! you can email me at osb at open dot coop

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Hakanto Mon 29 Jun 2020 11:06PM

I'll make a post on the Resonate dev forum and pass the link along to Z there 👍

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Yasuaki Kudo Tue 30 Jun 2020 4:02AM

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Yasuaki Kudo Tue 30 Jun 2020 6:39AM

I agree with this article. But I would argue that rather than all computer programmer needing to be given some kind if imaginary "certification", we need to have a radically participatory software designing exercise thar comprise of defining Requirements, Protocols, APIs, tests, etc.

https://medium.com/@garywiz/welcome-to-framework-hell-aa54a9b5d4fd

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RobertD Sun 23 Aug 2020 1:31PM

@Oli SB I’m wondering if the Murmerations team has explored extending the protocol to add some level of descriptions for the products/services offered by each participating entity. I was looking at eclassOWL or Good Relations as potential ways to standardize a JSON-LD extension that might be helpful. Both seem to be based on the international UNSPSC services and product codes taxonomy, and thus might have value for a broad set of communities.

My thought is that this kind of extension could enable aggregators to be built that help organizations better find and explore new economy partnerships for the services they need. I’ve also been pondering on ways to help those whose personal economies have been dramatically impacted by COVID-19 find and explore alternative, cooperative approaches to earn a living, by looking for complementary services they could help grow. This is assuming, of course, that the cooperatives themselves are economically stable and growing.

If the product/services extension seems viable, I think a similar kind of self-service extension might be built for individuals and freelancers own sites that would help match them to available, new economy endeavors.

Have any of these kind of ideas been considered?

Thanks,

Robert

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Oli SB Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:04PM

HI @RobertD
Yes - we have been thinking about exactly what you mention... We're currently designing an updated version of Murmurations to make it more extensible and with better architecture, this should be done in the next few months... the initial plan is designed to help people 'discover' other people, projects and organisations within the regenerative economy, then in a further phase we aim to enable 'offers' and 'wants' which would enable aggregators to let people search triples ... we now have a dedicated forum for Murmurations at https://murmurations.flarum.cloud/ if you would like to chip in ideas there - and will announce any updates on the blog too
Thanks for thinking about this!

Oli

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RobertD Tue 1 Sep 2020 12:22PM

Thanks for the update @Oli SB

Glad to hear that. My colleague and I are working on a way to make sense of project descriptions with project needs, which we may be able to contribute at a point when it’s working, both to the protocol and in an intelligent needs-based search aggregator. I’ll take a look at the forum and update progress there.

Robert

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Oli SB Mon 7 Sep 2020 3:29PM

Just to make it super clear - Murmurations discussions are now taking place at https://murmurations.flarum.cloud/ - get involved if you like ;)

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Bob Haugen Mon 7 Sep 2020 6:40PM

Joined via json file. Can see ourselves (mikorizal.org) in the https://murmurations.network/directory/ and on https://murmurations.network/map/ now...but not in the https://murmurations.network/feeds/

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