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Thu 27 Jun 2019

Loomio 2.0 - report bugs and issues here

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Rob Guthrie Public Seen by 547

This is where you can report bugs within Loomio and see when they're fixed.

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Rob Guthrie Mon 29 Nov

Ok, wow, nice spotting. It will be fixed in the next release, which you can subscribe to via github.

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Rob Guthrie Mon 29 Nov

Hrrmm, that's odd. I'll look into it.

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ALI Moussa Mon 29 Nov

I'd say it's half solved :)

In the poll details page you can see all the voters but on the voting table, the voters who voted 'no' everywhere are still not visible. (tested with v2.11.6)

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Rob Guthrie Sun 28 Nov

Did that fix the issue?

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ALI Moussa Fri 26 Nov

Update done. Thanks !

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Rob Guthrie Fri 26 Nov

Please update your Loomio version, this should be fixed now.

AM

ALI Moussa Fri 26 Nov

Hello community. We have a "bug" on the display of the voters in the results of date poll. When a member votes 'no' everywhere it does not appear in the results so impossible to know who really voted. Here is a capture with 8 voters but only 7 appear on the detail. @Rob Guthrie

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Shane Guthrie Thu 27 May

Thanks so much, Rob. Good to see the reason; hope the long URL problem will be OK.

I used Loomio years ago in another role, another organisation. Great to see the improvements over time.

RG

Rob Guthrie Wed 26 May

Sorry about that. I used too much CSS trying to fix a problem where long URLS would blow the width of the page out.

Deploying a fix now, thanks for bringing this up.

SG

Shane Guthrie Wed 26 May

Thanks for a great service; it's helping flexible engagement for groups I volunteer with..

Hyphenation

How do I remove hyphenation? I can't find anything in the manual or help search.

It seems to be on automatically, and it makes some strange choices.

In long lines of text across a large window, hyphenation impedes readability rather than improving it, as there is little need to maximise use of available space. I would never, for example, split a word between lines in an A4-sized letter. I might, on a rare occasion, split a word by using a hyphen if it's a narrow column in the style of a newspaper.

I see that help items and the user manual text is not hyphenated. Why would splitting words and hyphenation be applied to user text?

I wonder what the thoughts were behind hyphenation applied to user text in discussion threads, and how there might be an option to either prevent automatic hyphenation when creating text, or to turn it off when reading threads.

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Rob Guthrie Fri 23 Apr

Hi Adam,

We have, in our near term roadmap, a plan to build a proper "email to group" function, where your group will have an email address based on it's URL. So your-group@loomio.org can receive emails and turn them into threads.

I think you may be able to get your current plan working with the right forwarding rule in Gmail, but I don't know the correct way to achieve that.

Sorry, that's all I can do right now.

Robert

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Adam Hardy Fri 23 Apr

I discovered the problem. It's not Loomio, it's Gmail. Instead of forwarding the incoming emails from the account using the gmail email address, Gmail just sort of volleys the email across with no changes, so the forwarded email also seems to come direct from whoever email us, rather than our gmail account. So Loomio rightly ignores it.

Is there a work-around that I'm not thinking of here?

I thought I could make the thread public, so anyone can email onto it if they knew the Loomio reply email address, but then of course the thread would appear to the general public.

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Adam Hardy Thu 22 Apr

Hi Loomsters,

I am trying to set up gmail to forward incoming emails from our official email address to Loomio, in particular to get them to land in a thread. Setting up gmail to forward emails was easy, and then I added the email address into Loomio as an account in itself, so it could post.

I figured I'd used the reply-to email from a Loomio notification email on the thread, which worked when I sent an email to the thread from my email address, and then when I sent one from the gmail account I'm talking about, but then it just failed to arrive when I set it up as the forward destination.

This is the email address I'm using - maybe I should use a different set of tokens before the @ sign?

d=462014&u=983027&k=41e3ff5fd2a7f526a3420a8149338512@reply.loomio.org

As I said though, it worked for the email address once for a direct mail, but not for a forwarded email. Is there maybe a spam filter on Loomio's incoming email component that might be silently rejecting it because it's forwarded?

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david rayner Sat 10 Apr

thanks for all that you and the team do...🙏

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Rob Guthrie Fri 9 Apr

Great. Thanks for the support. The best thing is to just report these problems to me, and I'll just keep doing my best to make sure they can't happen again.

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Laurène - ZD Nice Fri 9 Apr

So great ! Thank you very much Rob ! If we can do something to prevent this kind of bug, just let we know 👌

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Rob Guthrie Tue 6 Apr

ok, fixed. Sorry about this

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Rob Guthrie Tue 6 Apr

Hi @Laurène - ZD Nice I'm looking into this now. Thanks for the helpful info.

LZN

Laurène - ZD Nice Thu 1 Apr

Hi guys, thank you for all you're doing to get Loomio better 😊

Like some of you, our group is victim of grey boxes (computer or smartphone, it's the same 👹

It's recurrent since last year despite refresh and refresh again, even after clearing temporary storage...

What is really strange is that during one second, while the page is loading, we can see the last comment appearing (last screenshot)

but personally i found a tip : add "/100" to the url to go to the 100th message of the thread for exemple. And after i go up to read the most recent post : a bit fastidious but it works 🙈 Or click on the time line on the right when there is one ➡️

Well, one of our thread is mainly affected (see pictures) : https://www.loomio.org/d/eQ4vhFHB/communication-relations-ext-rieures

@Rob Guthrie please help 🙏

However, how to prevent this kind of bug ? Can you know where it come from ?

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david rayner Sun 4 Apr

with latest FFox.

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david rayner Tue 30 Mar

another oddity...when linking from email to thread and then logging in...at my end, it requires another refresh in order to gain access to react/reply...

maybe this in the same class of error u speak of?

win 8.1 on a pc...

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david rayner Wed 7 Apr

aha adam and @Rob Guthrie ...i think i did similar steps at some stage in my intuitive thread-bothering/whack it with a hammer style amateur wrangling ... i did not have any idea but that is what i did and now the thread seems to be working fine. (just tested it again 47 secs ago.)

i did it other way around...un-nested then re-nested... i would un-nest to re-test but i need to go to b-ed

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Adam Hardy Tue 6 Apr

Yes it is still happening. Here's the URL - it's private but you have super privileges?

https://www.loomio.org/d/E69sV2CQ/engagement-subgroup-meeting-monday-march-29th-2021

I discovered a work-around. If I tell Loomio to set the message ordering to nested and back again, my new message will appear :)

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Rob Guthrie Tue 6 Apr

Hi Adam, is this still happening for you? Post the URL of the thread (or private message it to me) and I'll look into it.

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david rayner Tue 30 Mar

you must have done it in your sleep as the thread i drew attention to is working fine now.

all posts are showing, no issues. 🤔

that is why i said thank u the next day...maybe it was greg...

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Rob Guthrie Tue 30 Mar

I've not addressed this yet! Tomorrow!

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david rayner Tue 30 Mar

i just told rob....and he fixed it by the next day... he is the one...and greg.

excuse me for using u as an excuse to deride touchscreens. (like i need one...)

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Adam Hardy Tue 30 Mar

No, I'm on a laptop and saw the fleeting glimpse. What I meant by work-
around was any way that might fix the thread - adding another message
maybe, or logging out and back in?

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david rayner Tue 30 Mar

you need to ask @Rob Guthrie about that last query...and include a link to the page that is giving u jip.(that is my sole technical term...)

i assumed it affects everyone but u asking the question makes me think i need ask other members...

i also realise that u must use a touchscreen as my F5(refresh) workaround to spot the post fleetingly would have no equivalent? i despise dislike touchscreens...for me.

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Adam Hardy Tue 30 Mar

Seeing this too! Or more to the point, it's what I'm not seeing 😆

Does it just affect me or does it affect everyone reading the thread? I'm wondering why it hides my message. I see other people's messages on the thread, although no-one has posted after me so maybe it's just the end message.

Is there a work-around that I can use to make it show my message?

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david rayner Sun 28 Mar

thank u.

Strange how it was just that one thread...all others seem to be working just fine but i will keep my eyes open...🗿

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Rob Guthrie Fri 26 Mar

Shocking. I'm sorry!

I'm working on the new thread page which will remove the whole class of errors.

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david rayner Fri 26 Mar

aha... @Rob Guthrie i came here to report a strange bug and... it is exactly what Xavi was experiencing in previous post.

i received email notification of a new comment from mar 24 from a member

https://www.loomio.org/d/po3SUTQX/monthly-pool-meeting

it was not there ! but f5 shows it momentarily and after a few reviews i realised there was a post i had made on feb 10 that is not remaining either...last obvious post is from jan 22.

this may be part of why our recent organising of meetings has been...retrograde.

i cannot find the same happening in any other threads...hmmm...mercurial...

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Rob Guthrie Tue 10 Nov 2020

Hi @Xavi - are you still having issues with Loomio, I think we've fixed what you raised.

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Rob Guthrie Sat 7 Nov 2020

Yes! Tragic isn't it. I'll sort it today.

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Xavi Sat 7 Nov 2020

Hi Rob thanks for your suggestion. It's funny because there is also a bug in the thread I created here on Help. When refreshing my screen with F5, I can see your comment for less than half a second and then it vanishes, very strange.

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david rayner Wed 11 Nov 2020

thanks rob...i had meant to say that once the initial person completed the loop the next day then more people could be added.

all good...

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Rob Guthrie Tue 10 Nov 2020

Hi David.

Re-try your add member process today. We've fixed a few things.

Yes, unfortunately the realtime collab editor has not graduated out of beta yet, it was this feature that was going to also provide the "you cant lose your work" feature. We've got another approach to try.

Please assume that my spelling errors are intentional. Bugs are not, however.

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david rayner Sat 7 Nov 2020

@Rob Guthrie love new features...but the direct thread,once setup for one member, could (or would?) not find members for additional entry. the other person has not yet seen this thread.

and the other dayish...i found the 2.4.0 release notes and they said that our comments would no longer be lost...i tested this and could not find a situation where they were retained. what was i doing wrong? or is that out of date?

also spelling error on github release notes...Thread and Poll edit notificaitons

pedantry rains supreme!! 😀...🙊...🗿

ps i wasnt sure where else to send this heads up...

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Rob Guthrie Sun 5 Jul 2020

I'm sorry you are having this experience!

I'm always shaving time off the load process. I don't have historical data, but I can tell you there has been a number of ways we've improved this recently and I will keep it up. Hopefully it will start to feel light and snappy for you soon.

JD

Josef Davies-Coates Sat 4 Jul 2020

My main issue with Loomio 2.0 is that it is just too slow. It seems to take ages for it to load. At least in Firefox on Ubuntu and Android anyway.

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Rob Guthrie Thu 21 Jan

thanks for raising this.. I'm slowly processing it in my head and trying to see if there is an easy way to do it.

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Fran67 Thu 21 Jan

@Rob Guthrie
When I say “anybody”, I mean “anybody of the group”, of course.

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Fran67 Wed 20 Jan

Hi Rob.

Thanks for your fast answer.

I agree: The "You have a new notification in your loomio group" version of email notifications would be fairly horrible. :wink:

But it should allow not to share content with companies we don't trust.

Maintainig a white or black list is not feasible and should probably not make sense, because my white list could have elements of your black list (or the inverse).

Simply, the administrator of a group could have the possibility to select the option “don't include any content of this group in notification mails”, so nobody could be responsible (at least by mistake) of leaking content to his (bad) mail provider.

And maybe Loomio could limit the sending of such empty messages at a rate of once a day?

As I write this, i think of another option that could do the job another way:

Let the second part of all the user's addresses visible to anybody (in my case, you could now that I'm at “…@dossogne.be”, but nothing more). This would allow anybody to say that an address is not O.K. even without knowing what the exact address is.

Maybe easier and… less horrible? :grinning:

François

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Rob Guthrie Tue 19 Jan

Hi Fran. Thanks for bringing this up - it sure is complicated eh. I think there is a lot of work to be done here, and the least of it is software development.

I'd be very interested to learn what other SASS businesses or hosts are doing to address this issue. Surely there must be some consensus building within blog posts from other products/orgs as they get to grips with this.

The "You have a new notification in your loomio group" version of email notifications would be fairly horrible..but could be done, but then one would need to maintain a list of bad hosts, or good hosts, or the user must enable it or.. it's just a rubbish job - and any work I do at this stage does not feel well informed enough to confidently address the problem.

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Fran67 Tue 19 Jan

Hi @robertguthrie ,

I hope I'm not busy in a wrong discussion, as version 2.0 is now an old one.

I'm a user of Framavox, an instance of Loomio presently running version 2.1.9.

I'm wondering if i'm the only one mentionning the problem explained here above.

I think it could be an issue for many users in the European Union : on july, 16th 2020, the Court of Justice of the European Union stated it was illegal to upload personal data of european citizens to services under U.S. jurisdiction.

If an organization runs or uses a trusted Loomio instance, everything is in place to offer the needed confidentiality. But if a single participant of a group uses a “wrong” mail service (e.g. Gmail, which EULA states Google reads the content of the mails and is operated by a U.S. corporation…), all messages posted in the group are exposed to inspection by people and companies that the other participants don't want to trust.

I can't know how much work this would be for you, but even the possibility to block all notifications by mail could be useful. (Though I think a neutral reminder, as proposed above, would be necessary to avoid that people just forget about checking their Loomio groups.)

At this time, the only possibility to avoid releasing content to Gmail, Hotmail, etc. is to ask the group members to use a trusted mail provider… and to trust them.

Thanks for your time and, again, for Loomio!

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Fran67 Fri 3 Jul 2020

I'd say to keep it simple: simply allow the manager of a group or sub-group to choose for No Content At All In Any Mail Notification as an option. From there on, all email notifications would be limited to “Somebody mentioned you in a post” or “your are required to answer a poll in the group …”, but absolutely no content at all, in a way that Google (who's privacy policy says: “We will read your mails”) and other operators could not know what information is exchanged (or even about what people talk in this group).

If activists or people caring for their privacy are interested in such a functionality, I think even the title of a discussion or a poll could be too much. Same rationale for context and details (they will discover it by opening Loomio, where “Unread threads” is very useful).

The group name is the only information that could be necessary or useful to go and find the useful post or poll.

Allowing to choose if usernames and discussion title could be an advantage, because it allows to knows whether it's an important or urging matter, but this shouldn't make Loomio a too complicated thing to use. (Une usine à gaz, as we say in French :wink:)

Thanks for your attention and help.

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Rob Guthrie Fri 3 Jul 2020

Hi Fran, yes this is possible.

What information would you say is necessary and what can you leave out?

Discussion title, poll title?

discussion context and details?

Group name?

User names?

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Fran67 Thu 25 Jun 2020

Privacy in mail notifications… to others

The question of a member on our Framavox group could be interesting for some of Loomio's users.
In short:

How do I prevent other members of my groups to let Loomio send the content of my posts to their mailbox, hosted by companies I don't trust or I don't want to make the life easy.

It's true that you don't know which mail provider the others are using and that mail, by design, is less secure than a Loomio service.

I searched the documentation and I found how I can prevent notifications to my mailbox, but I think there is no mean to prevent the content of a (sub-)group to be sent to anybody.

Don't you think it could be a useful functionality to forbid the content to be integrated into the notification mails, as an option for a group or subgroup? One would receive something like “X mentioned you in the discussion …”, but not the post itself.
Do you think this could be feasible?

Thanks in advance!

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Rob Guthrie Thu 28 May 2020

Thanks for the detailed report, I'll get onto it

JG

john gieryn Thu 28 May 2020

Second time this week where I've had unexpected/ incorrect behavior from Send Poll modal's quick-select (Members of thread, Members of group)

In the most recent case, upon starting a poll, the modal incorrectly showed that there were only (5) members of group (there are 7); clicking invite to vote again, now I see (6) as depicted below along with a funny (-1) not yet invited. Detail: 6 of the 7 members are Admins of this subgroup.

The earlier case was also in a subgroup of Enspiral – Members. Whether I clicked "Undecided people" or "Members of Members", the number was short of the truth. (To reproduce, go to the most recent Membership proposal)

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Aaron Wolf Mon 25 May 2020

I am using Firefox (latest) on Ubuntu 18.04 with KDE

there I had to hit tab to get the paperclip then shift-tab to come back to here. I had to use keyboard arrow keys for that, the mouse cursor couldn't do it.

EDIT: here's the recording, attached gif

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Rob Guthrie Sun 24 May 2020

could you share a video about this problem Aaron? Also what browser and OS? (sorry if you've already shared this, I'm replying by email)

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Aaron Wolf Sun 24 May 2020

I'm still having the problem where I can't use my mouse cursor to move the text cursor in a comment field! If I click on the comment field, the text loses focuses. I can't select text with the mouse cursor either. No interaction works with the mouse except for outside of the text entry field. The only way to get the field active again is to tab-through the items until it is active again.

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Rob Guthrie Mon 8 Jun 2020

Hi Fran, sorry for my slow reply. Yes, we've seen this but are not yet able to bring back the save draft functionality we had in Loomio 1, sorry.

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Fran67 Sun 24 May 2020

Reminder… (“Dealing with unposted comments”)

Hello,

I don't know if this is necessary, but I didn't notice any reaction to my post in objet and it might have been posted on a wrong time. I'd be happy to know if you saw it already.

Thanks in advance !

RG

Rob Guthrie Thu 21 May 2020

Right, mark as read used to be called dismiss, it does not actually mark stuff as read, maybe it should.. But it notes that until there is more stuff, you're not interested.

I think we've learned from this UX, that we want actual mark as read, plus a good mute until X feature.

JG

john gieryn Wed 20 May 2020

Repost of a bug a nested under another bug for clarity (link to that post)

Bug = Unread messages keep reappearing even after I click read

To reproduce: Last week I used mark as read on a thread that had a lot of old comments that occurred before I joined group.

There was a new comment, and I went and read it.

Subsequently, I saw it was unread... I went in again and it brought me to the same new comment, but I also could see that there was "106 unread"

I've marked it as read and after hard refresh still appears read... I'll update here if I see anything else and try and get the console too.

JG

john gieryn Thu 21 May 2020

@Rob Guthrie added the link to this one above ^

JG

john gieryn Thu 14 May 2020

Another grey boxes thing in this old thread:

  • grey boxes past a certain date will not load (all comments previous to the one appeared have loaded)

  • also the polls i know are in there are not appearing (i guess they are grey boxes).

  • (you'll also notice the Timeline is broken a bit)

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Rob Guthrie Wed 13 May 2020

fyi, always appreciate a URL in text form for stuff like this :)

JG

john gieryn Wed 13 May 2020

Grey boxes not going away even after hard refresh @Rob Guthrie @Greg Kan (hope y'all's days been decent!)

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Rob Guthrie Thu 21 May 2020

catching up on all the bugs now, one by one. this image preview issue is fixed

JG

john gieryn Wed 13 May 2020

Unread reappeared on this thread although no new messages have appeared... not sure if it's related to the new bug i just posted in here as a separate comment

JG

john gieryn Tue 12 May 2020

https://www.loomio.org/d/njwV5RpS/our-wellington-office

Re: the latter (unrelated?) bug:

  • Thread stayed read

    • I think the unread comments were just below where the the app dropped me upon entry to the thread, as when I clicked into the thread (no unreads) it dropped me in the middle again, and I happened to scroll down and see a couple yellow highlighted comments

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Greg Kan Tue 12 May 2020

can you paste me the URL john ?

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john gieryn Tue 12 May 2020

Unrelated? Smaller bug:

  • I can't seem to get the messages in this thread 'read'. When I click to the group, and then click back in, it doesn't take me to any specific message (just drops me somewhere randomly in the middle). I'm going to mark as read now and see what happens

JG

john gieryn Tue 12 May 2020

@Rob Guthrie @Greg Kan just came upon this large oddity:

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Greg Kan Wed 13 May 2020

Totally fair enough! We are always looking to make UX improvements and will look into this.

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Fran67 Wed 13 May 2020

Thank you for your answer.

You're right! I found the “invite people to vote” and “…” buttons at the very bottom of the poll.

Maybe it could be a bit more ergonomic or user-friendly if these buttons were placed above the choices to vote for (a time poll can be long), but there is no bug.

I'll go get better eyes. :wink:

GK

Greg Kan Tue 12 May 2020

Hi @Fran67

If you click the dots/ellipsis you should see the "Edit" option. The "Change vote" feature is actually completely different from editing the poll settings themselves, as you've probably observed!

Here's a screenshot:

You should also be seeing the "invite people to vote" button whether or not you have voted, as shown in the screenshot?

Let me know if you find anything else!

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Fran67 Tue 12 May 2020

Can't edit the settings of a poll I just created…

… if I don't vote first.

This is confusing: it's not possible to invite people to vote, if you didn't do so at the end of the creation of the poll, nor to edit the settings of the poll if you made a mistake.

It seems that you have to make the button “change vote” appear (by voting) in order to get access to the other options.

JG

john gieryn Mon 18 May 2020

Different bug(?)

So after the above things happened, I reopened Loomio and went into the group-specific email notifications and set them to "ignore"

I was surprised to receive an email notification 2 days ago (PERSON invited you to join THREAD). I checked and indeed my group email setting was still "ignore" as I had recently set it. Clicking into the thread and checking my thread-specific email setting, for some reason this is "normal" even though the thread appears to have started after I'd set group setting to "ignore"

JG

john gieryn Mon 11 May 2020

Funny behavior after clicking 'email preferences' from a Loomio product email

  1. It brought me to my global notification settings (not too surprising although not the settings I wanted to change)

  2. I try to navigate to the group in question, and see a flat list of all my groups and subgroups mixed together

  3. Clicking on the group in question, I get the following 404 and funny URL

  1. The first time I hit the back button, still a 404 but the URL has changed to https://www.loomio.org/g/undefined

Semi-related note:

I always find it a little disconcerting to see the "LOG IN" on my top right, I feel less certain the changes I make will take affect

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Fran67 Wed 6 May 2020

Dealing with unposted comments

Hello and thank you for Loomio!

I'm new here and after reading some threads, I hope I post this one in the right place.

I'm very distracted and it happens that I leave a comment unposted. With the previous version, I retrieved an unposted comment where I left it, even weeks or months later.

With the new version, unposted comments seem to disappear if I leave the page and then come back. (I guess my computer will hear ugly words, one day… :wink:)

I think people like me should get a message when they try to leave a page where a comment is left open/unposted. Is it possible?

(The former way of working was better, and should be ideal if there was a special reminder, like “Unpublished post(s)” in the left column, near “Recent threads” and “Unread threads”, for instance. But I suspect this is a lot more work.)
Thanks in advance!

RG

Rob Guthrie Wed 6 May 2020

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john gieryn Wed 6 May 2020

@Rob Guthrie funny behavior where I couldn't start a new thread (emailing you screencap), I proceeded to refresh, and then Loomio logged me out (unusual)... logging back in I managed to start the thread I'd intended

JG

john gieryn Wed 6 May 2020

@Rob Guthrie all images in this thread are appearing broken to me

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Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

fixed now

RG

Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

deploying fix now

JG

john gieryn Thu 30 Apr 2020

Poll page doesn't link to the parent thread when arriving from search

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Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

fix for this is now live, but it does not fix for previously mentioned people, only going forward

JG

john gieryn Thu 30 Apr 2020

Makes sense.

One small simplification, perhaps, may serve:

  • When you 'invite people to vote' who are not members of your group, I reckon that (pop-up) language in the app could make it clear that you are also inviting them to be a guest of this thread

    • then who can vote (currently) = members of group + guests of thread

    • that future tickbox would toggle away from the former to who can vote = those invite to

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Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

Seems like it might be a good idea to write something like this into the app or help, soon. Who can vote? seems like useful in-app info.

RG

Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

And, in the coming months, we'll make a checkbox option, so that you can create a poll where ONLY people invited to the poll directly can vote in it.

RG

Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

To summarize:

Anyone who is a member of the poll's group, or a guest of the poll's discussion, or has been invited to the poll directly, can vote in a poll.

Inviting someone to a poll, within a discussion, gives that person access to vote in the poll, and comment in the discussion, but does not make them a group member.

We'll be making someone to show who are the participants in a discussion, and if they are guests or members, soon.

The poll page shows all the stances in a poll, which is also a list of everyone invited to the poll.

RG

Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

inviting someone to a poll, if it is part of a discussion, also gives that person guest access to the discussion

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Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

hrrmm no that's different.I would love to be pointed to an example of the problem you're talking about. (before a workaround is used)

A stance (ie: being invited to the poll), will always give you access to the poll because it's an access record in itself. (key part of the new architecture I've been talking about)

JG

john gieryn Thu 30 Apr 2020

cool thanks I think this will also fix the other weird behavior i saw where we tried to do a stand-alone time poll, invited people to the poll, and then one user couldn't access it. Sukie, who was running it, fixed it by adding them as Members to the group.

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Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

yikes, fixing now

JG

john gieryn Thu 30 Apr 2020

@mentioning someone in my parent group in the thread of a subgroup they do not belong to does not give them guest access to the thread, but still gives that user a notification
(My expectation was that @mention – in a context – functions the same as invite people)

^ mentioning my training account from this account => I get a mention notification but reach a "no permission" page:

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Rob Guthrie Thu 30 Apr 2020

Thanks John, pushing up a fix now.

JG

john gieryn Thu 30 Apr 2020

notifications.null have been appearing lately, not sure if they're to do with standalone polls (although the first example I show in this screencast is related to such) https://www.loom.com/share/c065ad02eb6340bca6298850b541d5ea @Rob Guthrie

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Rob Guthrie Sun 26 Apr 2020

Hrmm. I cannot reproduce with Safari 13.0.5. Am deploying an update to Tiptap now.

What version of Safari do you have?

RG

Rob Guthrie Sun 26 Apr 2020

Well, while you're there, if there is anything simple that would be a big improvement for the markdown editor, let me know.

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Sam Toland Sun 26 Apr 2020

No worries - thanks for the attentiveness (I'm making do with the markdown editor at the moment - which does the job most of the time, even though I like the new editor TBH).

RG

Rob Guthrie Sun 26 Apr 2020

I'll update it tomorrow and test with those browsers then. Sorry for the hassle!

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Sam Toland Sun 26 Apr 2020

It appears in my primary group, but as you see on the vid - I am on this thread when I am reproducing it on the video. Haven't found a place I'm not finding it. (Only weird thing is that it was happening on and off, and now all the time - at least apparently).

I've just tested it again on a couple of browsers.

I've replicated it on Brave (Chromium Browser) + Safari - OSX High Sierra. But I've just tried Chrome - and the editor is working as expected.

If it was just Brave - I suppose it might be worth forgetting about (you can't make it bug-free across every conceivable browser) but given it is Safari - it might be worth persisting with.

Having said that - if I'm the first person to have this issue, it can't be very pervasive. It is a really noticeable issue when it occurs, that interferes with the normal use of Loomio, so others would have raised it by now.

Anything thanks for keeping me in the loop.

RG

Rob Guthrie Sun 26 Apr 2020

Sorry, I've been both swamped with work, and kind of shocked about this.

I have no idea how you're seeing that behaviour. I can't reproduce it at all. I think I need more information.. Is it in an group, any thread, any browser? What if you are another user? Or are there some combos where it does or does not happen?

The editor is based on TipTap which is fairly well used, there is an update available. I'll update it tomorrow and let you know.