Door Access
As we grow in member numbers controlling access to hackland is becoming more difficult.. We dont really think that there are significant issues of avoiding membership but at the moment it is very difficult to track who is paid up and who should have access.
A few members not paying their fees is the difference between not making rent and being able to buy new tools and consumables to keep the space well stocked and attract new members.
Also, as the system in place is very low security, there may be some concern about leaving high value assets in the space (tools on loan). Hackland rely's on members to share tools to offer a wide range of equiptment. We want to encourage members to loan tools for long durations.
To remove the burden of chasing members to pay fees and to know who is accessing the space should any problems arise, an RFID door access has been proposed. The system is to be linked back to a service that scrapes the HL bank acount to check if members are paid up.
Currently we have a system proposed that will cost $300 dollars for hardware. Propose to use current surplus to cover this amount.
Detailed discussion of the system and implementation is available at #door on slack should you be interested.
cstewart000 Sat 29 Dec 2018 8:47PM
Agree. it is hackable, but less so then the current system. I think that the security level is appropriate. Fingerprint scanners have also been proposed.
cstewart000 Sat 29 Dec 2018 8:54PM
Apart from control of membership, the second aim is to know who comes in and out of the space in the event that things go missing or come in to the space. We have had a few instances of tools being borrowed for extended periods of time (this is usually ok, but we would like to know who to follow up with). Lately, we have had a few instances of dumping of rubbish/large items in the space. The other point is when the spaces is left super messy - we can have a quiet word.
Poll Created Sat 29 Dec 2018 8:39PM
Pay for door hardware from HL funds $300 Closed Thu 3 Jan 2019 10:01AM
Agreeing means that you vote to pay for door access hardware using Hacklands surplus.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
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Agree | 85.7% | 6 | |
| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 14.3% | 1 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 0 |
7 of 7 people have participated (100%)
Anonymous
Sat 29 Dec 2018 9:33PM
I'd prefer if we build it using stuff already available or ask for donations. But also I'm happy people are helping and keen to get things running. We don't have much funds though
Anonymous
Mon 31 Dec 2018 7:21AM
I suspect most people will go in and out when the door(s) are open so tracking may not be very effective, but will be more secure than current method.
Anonymous
Tue 1 Jan 2019 6:28AM
I am all for the proposal on slack (spending $300 for two magnetic door locks and some extra bits to make it safe in case of power outage). But I think we should hold our loomio discussion to higher standards: Asking for $300 for something only explained by a chat log stored on a different medium is not a good starting point for an efficient discussion. Generous application of copy paste is advised.
Anonymous
Wed 2 Jan 2019 9:01PM
Yeah for testing out a new system! Thanks for all the research about potential setup. I am also looking forward to using a single object to access both spaces :) magnetic locks can be fiddly : has anyone already tested or being given direct feedback on the stuff that will be bought?
cstewart000 Wed 2 Jan 2019 9:32PM
The locks are to be installed by someone who knows what they are doing. We will keep the system as it is untill the new system has been proven to work.
Jorån Kikke Wed 13 Feb 2019 4:29AM
I think we should change the door code in the mean time
R B · Sat 29 Dec 2018 6:34AM
Sounds good to me - not sure about rfid as it's kinda hackable. Could have a system where a new code is sent out each month if members are paid up to avoid any issues where the door doesn't have internet/bank access.