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What is AGM

FL Fred Look Public Seen by 532

My experience of AGM over the years in many different organisations is that they are often disfunctional, This because of many different expectations of what is being attempted. This year we are attempting something quite new (on-line). This is a recipe for chaos in its own right. If we are going to pull this off we need to work out before hand some consensus of what we expect to acheive. The things that actually need to occur at an AGM are quite do-able. Can we maby agree here on the absolute necessities. figure out a plan to get thru those and then see where we are ? This really is in your hands.

DU

William Asiata Tue 25 Aug 2015 11:49PM

Good idea

NC

Nobilangelo Ceramalus Wed 26 Aug 2015 5:07AM

And G+ hangouts can be recorded to YouTube, thus providing a record that no stenographer could match.

FL

Fred Look Sun 30 Aug 2015 8:21PM

Now I can see a way to do voting that is within my rather limited expertise, I can generate a unique password for each member in the database (I favour something like "wheel583tree" being fairly easy to generate and user friendly) then using mail merge i can email every member their password , load the password column into mysql and build voting pages in PHP in a sub folder on forum.internet.org. It is doable . Would they come?

FL

Fred Look Sun 30 Aug 2015 8:41PM

Hmm gonna need 3,4,5 letter word lists that dont contain bork, bum, arse, n tittie dont want to send someone gay69penis it might put some people off

DU

Ross Burrows Sun 30 Aug 2015 10:40PM

Hi Fred. Your voting idea sounds good, the more simple you can make it the better, but there does need to be a verifiable way to I.D. each and every voter.

Would they come? I suggest you don't just expect to do a mail out on the day in question.

I recommend a build-up period whereby you invite people to respond long before the vote.

You could announce a chat room test well before the date of the A.G.M. and see how many numbers turn up.

Another way to test the waters is to get them to vote on other unrelated issues, long before the A.G.M. date.

Any excuse will do, but we could get a show of hands on any important but as yet unanswered questions.

Getting approval for constititution changes would be one example.

Voting on the top ten policy statements is another.

On the week of the A.G.M. you could do a 7 day countdown, where you say 7 days to go before the A.G.M., 6 days to go before the A.G.M. etc.

I quite like the idea of a video feed on the night, could be live with current interim exec. plus all the candidates running for positions.

lets keep contemplating . . . .

FL

Fred Look Mon 31 Aug 2015 12:50AM

@rossburrows yes i agree we need to get people involved well before nov 7 , (that was my plan in opening nominations) It would be good to get the passwords (i gona call them "tokens") sorted and then apply them to the Chat, Discussions well before vote are essential and it would seem improper (to me) to even call a vote on something that has not been well discussed beforehand. ideally a vote only confirms a consensus reached. somehow we gotta get people talking, I was initially feeling like getting people to move from loomio to the forums but I think maby that idea was shortsighted. we just need to get a transparent and easy movement between what works best for each situation.

FL

Fred Look Thu 3 Sep 2015 3:08AM

OK i have prepared "tokens" crash10test thru to crash20test

can you please go to
https://forum.internet.org.nz/votes/index.php

and try to break something.

then post your comments and impressions here

if you use all the tokens let me know here and i will clear them

Fred

NC

Nobilangelo Ceramalus Thu 3 Sep 2015 4:20AM

It all worked fine for me. I tried only one token. 0 and blank do the same thing, which is nicely intuitive. And any numbers work--all the ones I tried did--so putting, say, 1, 20, 35, 3 changed as it should, to 1, 3, 4, 2. Very nice. (Lucy Lawless should be there for real. A nice lady, whose heart is in the right place.) Well done!

FL

Fred Look Thu 3 Sep 2015 5:25AM

@nobilangeloceramal hey thats great, yes you can use any integers from 1 to 49 to rank which means you can go 3,6,9,12 and then slot people in , 0 or 50+ will be unranked

Note that because these tokens have been released here , it is possible that two persons may be using the same token ! Wont happen in real life... the outcome here would be that a poll you are working on may change status to "voted" while you working... it should handle this gracefully.

JB

Jo Booth Thu 3 Sep 2015 6:18AM

Gave it a whirl. Seemed reasonably intuitive - though the numbering wasn't clear. I used -5 for JK and it seemed to accept 99 etc.

Maybe rather than just 'voted' at the end it could list your ranking or some additional confirmation or feedback

Any plans to give a live results page?

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