Abstention - Do Loomio voting options foster participation ?
Today, a proposition may be read by 50 people, but only 20 vote. What if the other 30 were made visible ? Would that not increase the sense of belonging in the community, acknowledging the commitment of both the proposer and the readers of the proposal ?
The "orange light" resulting of "abstain" is not representative of very different voting intentions (undecided, not caring, blank cheque, no legitimacy, etc.). Comments, while helpful, do not impact the interpretation of the charts.
To solve this, I propose to 1) change the orange icon title to "undecided", and 2) create a white icon "abstain".
Fabio Balli started a proposal November 1st, 2015 16:54
Change the orange icon title to "undecided" and create a white icon "abstain" Closed 6:58pm - Tuesday 3 Nov 2015
|Agree - 3|
|Abstain - 1|
|Disagree - 4|
|Block - 0|
November 1st, 2015 17:30
This complicates the simple premise of the software, in my humble opinion.
I may be able to be talked into clarifying what the positions mean per proposal (which has been suggested a few times before), but not changing this core tenet of Loomio.
November 1st, 2015 19:52
Low 'voter turnout' is prevalent in most online communities, even for rare scheduled events such as elections of annual officers, etcetera. There are many reasons for low participation, which can be addressed both generically and per-community.
Joop Kiefte (LaPingvino)
November 1st, 2015 23:43
No real need. I would go for a FB-like option x people read this proposal, and you could mark that as white in the chart, but not with a new button. Conscious choise for this would be Abstain.
November 3rd, 2015 12:03
Seems to me the main resistance is people don't like too many colours because it doesn't look as pretty. I think white is smart, because it's a lack of any colour (because it's a lack of any opinion) while orange becomes an active expression of :-S
November 3rd, 2015 19:10
What a great proposal. This has generated some really good ideas. Thank you OP. I love the idea that whitespace on the pie represents people who've read the proposal and did not vote
Fabio Balli started a proposal November 4th, 2015 00:06
Include people who viewed a tread but did not vote as a white slice in the pie chart. Closed 7:08pm - Friday 6 Nov 2015
|Agree - 7|
|Abstain - 0|
|Disagree - 13|
|Block - 0|
November 4th, 2015 18:16
I really like this general train of thought, but I don't think we're 'there yet'. IMO Matthew said it perfectly: views feel too lightweight and ambiguous for direct representation in the pies.
November 5th, 2015 20:15
I vote for this proposal because this kind of change is needed in my view. but I would change it to people who commented not just looked
November 6th, 2015 03:28
Weak disagree. I concur with the position that viewing is too weak an action to be meaningful. I'll open lots of tabs (I have 196 open right now), but that doesn't mean I've read any of them.
November 6th, 2015 13:03
I think the pie should only include people that engaged with the voting.
Alternatively, there could be sub-options for the those voting 'abstain' to explain their reasoning. Possible scenarios would be 'don't care, undecided, no time to follow, etc.
November 6th, 2015 19:52
Changed because there is enough information about the not decided. They have to accept that democracy means to be part of a decision. And the group have to improve the contact to those for that they take part.