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Sat 9 May 2015 5:02PM

DiasporaHQ account - move to a project pod?

JR Jason Robinson Public Seen by 244

We touched this issue (again, I know it has been up before) on IRC some time ago, happened to agree with @steffenvanbergerem that the project really needs its own pod. The largest reason for this being that posts from the DiasporaHQ account just do not federate out of joindiaspora except randomly. From the last 4 posts, I've received two. I've checked diasp.eu and diaspora-fr.org and neither had received the post either. It's just not something we can live with since we cannot debug problems on joindiaspora.com.

So, what is the current level of support (previous discussions have been rejected I remember) for pushing up a pod.diasporafoundation.org pod OR maybe if jhass wants to give it, diaspora.social .. It would not be an open pod, but would have accounts like HQ and Team.

To be honest, not a huge fan of diasporafoundation.org domain any more since it doesn't look like we're about to set up a legal organization any time soon :( Maybe we could discuss even adopting diaspora.social if @jhass would be ok with that - then we could have [email protected] and [email protected] and [email protected] - for example.

Anyway, just to kick of discussion about this again - feel very frustrated on the uselessness of the DHQ account right now.

Migration or loss of followers was mentioned last time as a blocker. I don't see it that way - most of the followers never receive the messages now anyway so it's kind of an academic question ;) Once joindiaspora.com updates to 0.5 (Maxwell wants to do it soon, talked with him), we can export the contacts and do a one time "mass follow" on the new pod, and then do a "mass unfollow". This will create a notification to any others who could then hit follow back if they want.

And I'm totally willing to host the pod and pay for it, if lack of volunteers for that is brought up as a problem.

JS

Juan Santiago Sun 10 May 2015 11:08AM

Yes, I think the project needs its own pod, not only for technical reasons, the technician can be fixed, but the development of Diaspora* needs its own identity, I feel great respect for the four people who started with the development of this network and for their first pods, but we must ourselves adults and emancipate and also reinforce the idea of federated network.

DU

Rich Mon 11 May 2015 4:24PM

Is it ready yet???

Yes, definitely, this should have been done years ago really.

Do you envision the pod running bleeding edge or a stable rls?

DU

Rich Mon 11 May 2015 4:28PM

Out of interest, when a new person joins jd.com can something be changed so they start sharing with the new official account on the new pod?

Can an auto-follow be cross-pod?

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 11 May 2015 6:46PM

@rich1 haha well considering the level of support yet here, no it is not ready :) I'll create a proposal if no more discussion happens by the weekend.

Do you envision the pod running bleeding edge or a stable rls?

I guess it should run bleeding edge but since it would be registrations closed then it wouldn't matter much to most.

Out of interest, when a new person joins jd.com can something be changed so they start sharing with the new official account on the new pod?

We would just push a new default setting for auto-follow in the next release.

Can an auto-follow be cross-pod?

It already is for everybody else except joindiaspora.com by default ;)

JR

Jason Robinson Mon 11 May 2015 6:48PM

Also, would need @jhass to comment on the domain name :) But I guess we would need at least two proposals, one for setting up the pod and one for the domain..

JS

Juan Santiago Mon 11 May 2015 8:54PM

most disporahq domains are available, .com .org etc.

JH

Jonne Haß Tue 12 May 2015 9:22AM

Well, I kind of would like to run an open pod on it once I have a proper box to run one.

G

goob Tue 12 May 2015 11:37AM

I'd like jd.com to be transformed into a community pod, as most external links to the project are still to that domain. Maxwell seemed interested a while ago in transferring ownership to the core community, any updates on that? Even if Jason or another core member could have admin access, they could help to get the pod functioning better by, e.g. clearing out unused accounts. I think the final transformation would have to wait until pod migration is possible, or there would be a lot of angry people out there! But if it was possible to find a way to do this using jd.com, that would, I think, be the idea situation as it is the domain most associated with the project.

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 12 May 2015 4:06PM

@jhass that is fair and understand totally, it's a cool domain ;)

@goob I don't think joindiaspora.com should ever be a central resource - it was once and that time has gone. Also, maintaining it as a community pod would require not only continuous effort but also money. I assume if Maxwell gives it away, he wont be paying for it :)

So, any support for pod.diasporafoundation.org?

JR

Jason Robinson Tue 12 May 2015 4:06PM

@jhass that is fair and understand totally, it's a cool domain ;)

@goob I don't think joindiaspora.com should ever be a central resource - it was once and that time has gone. Also, maintaining it as a community pod would require not only continuous effort but also money. I assume if Maxwell gives it away, he wont be paying for it :)

So, any support for pod.diasporafoundation.org?

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