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Fri 18 Jul 2014 2:53AM

Concerns Re: Abuse & Child Safety

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Hello Everyone.

I've had some serious issues getting assistance from @SeanTilley, Then @JoinDiaspora & Finally @JayWink Via Twitter.

Can someone here please respond to my and the communities growing concerns regarding this project?

Thank you in advance.

Information Re: Ongoing Issues Reported To Law Enforcement After Use Of Diaspora via Diasp.EU

https://twitter.com/L4C0F/status/489877740791664640

*If you'd prefer to discuss on Twitter, I've tweeted the link to this public discussion regarding all of our concerns.

https://twitter.com/L4C0F/status/489966361246826497

Thank You, I appreciate your time here. :-)

L4C0F

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 18 Jul 2014 8:39AM

Apparently now I also abuse recording artists in addition to teenagers. I didn't even know you can abuse recording artists.

DU

L4C0F Fri 18 Jul 2014 9:03AM

Oh, you mean like the 14 year old who i help to promote her and Ian's music directly on twitter and the Diaspora page NEO NAZI's trolled after malicious links were posted again & again with no option but to leave?

That one? The talented Emma Boudin?
https://twitter.com/emmaboudin

Yeah, I think you owe her and all of her friends on twitter an apology to be honest. Your call, just saying JR. You called teenagers Douchebags, stated your abuse towards all of us there was a 'life lesson', then threatened to follow me everywhere online before deleting it. Would you like me to post full screen caps of all your tweets? I didn't out of respect Sir.

Also consider apologizing to:
https://twitter.com/ianhalsall

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 18 Jul 2014 9:07AM

JR

Jason Robinson Fri 18 Jul 2014 9:08AM

ps. you promised you would not log in :(

DU

L4C0F Fri 18 Jul 2014 9:26AM

I genuinely feel sorry for you and all those who continue with you if this is how you feel you can treat us with no remorse, no reflection & in the name of someone else's awesome FOSS project.

You didn't start diaspora, You're a self appointed mouthpiece who drowns out all the good people here. Look, they're all afraid to speak on this topic now here.

I wouldn't want your abuse if i sided with a single clear, logical point i raise and wanted to continue working on Diaspora. You sir make this project ugly when you have the gift otherwise to contribute so much.

I see all your commits, i see your hard work. I wish you well and hope you truly grow to understand the issues regardless of your thoughts on me, teenagers or recording artists i connect with.

https://twitter.com/L4C0F/status/490065555240411136

https://twitter.com/L4C0F/status/490060306479992833

DU

Deleted account Fri 18 Jul 2014 9:48AM

@jasonrobinson : I understand you. Still difficult to not feed the troll ^

Anyway, @l4c0f, I'll act like you're really willing to improve Diaspora* so here is the thing : you have to understand that D* is a free software, not a website. This implies that the developpers community is not responsible for what you might have experienced on a specific D* pod.

Now, you might have good ideas to improve the softaware. Then, come on and contribute ! Feel free to fork the repo, implement your improvements and submit them.

But you cannot come here and insult all the members of the community to try to enforce your specific values. This might be the point where we do not understand : the devs community is not your service. If you're not happy with the way you've been treated on a specific pod, go and set your own up. We will be happy to help you doing it. There you will be able to suppress any post you want and make your law. This is the goal of D*.

Anyway, stop threaten us of lawsuits, this is ridiculous. Even if you succeded to notice and take down the foundation, hundreds of copies of the source code exist all over the world.

And understand this : diasp.eu is a domain name registred in the EU, hosted in Germany : your american laws don't applies here.

DU

L4C0F Fri 18 Jul 2014 10:05AM

Thank You Augier for responding. I am very happy to have caught this before finally sleeping from sheer exhaustion at this point. I've had other things as well to do today, it was long.

Re: Trying. Once you read my full report & all documents you'll see that was already tried on many levels, publicly, nicely & then i was censored, refused answer, told misleading things from different people for Diaspora , JoinDiaspora & Diaspora Inc.

Again, once you actually read the document & review the info on Twitter (should you care enough to take the time required) you will obviously see i understand your protocol and security even better than most podmins, That's pretty clear.

Re: Legal issues... Again, all very clearly laid out. Since you are perhaps not a parent who has a child who did see pron on Diaspora w/ no warning i can appreciate you may not have an issue. Also to note, I posted a link to international laws for everyone on twitter regarding this very topic. So, in your country it might be perfectly legal to show kids porn, Here in America we kinda' frown upon that and have USC2257 for it lol.

I am not suing Diaspora. I was censored on Wordpress for having composed my report on Diaspora and my experience there. My personal lawsuit is against Wordpress for censoring my report on Diaspora ;-)

I am simply publicly making myself available as a security consultant in legal matters for parents of harmed children in the United States. Specifically any minor on US located pods and especially the AWS run ones on JoinDIaspora.

I hope this helps a bit.

DU

L4C0F Fri 18 Jul 2014 10:09AM

Also, for the record. While revising code as i had laid out very clearly to function as i stated could in my report & on twitter... You could easily alleviate any further legal issues for your project.

However, in the US, Eben Moglen is on the hook with FSSN and others connected to Diaspora Inc. for willful felony child endangerment w/ adult material under the guise of a non-profit since at least this being made public and directed to him and the US Department Of Justice. Doing so, not protecting kids from porn & using nonprofit $ is illegal. It's very clear.

That's just how laws work here. I also hope that info helps.

DU

L4C0F Fri 18 Jul 2014 10:18AM

I will make an effort to come back tomorrow. As long as we can discuss intelligently, respectfully the actual logistics at hand, i'm fine with trying to help.

Thanks in advance to anyone who chimes in.

Also, Jason.. Just because we may never be friends doesn't mean i don't respect your work. If anything man, i took your shit because i know you're bright and i figured at some point you'd finally see what i'm concerned about.

I hope we've at least reached a truce on this ;-)

DU

Deleted account Fri 18 Jul 2014 10:21AM

@l4c0f : Please, make me a favor : stop answering everyone to read your documents. I read it. Everyone read it...

Make yourself clear : what do you eventually want ? Security for porn ? It's already there ! You do not fall face to face with porn on D* unless you searched it ! Meaning you searched the NSFW tag and read the disclaimer saying it actually IS porn.

Nobody can do anything for you, beyond that ! It's a social network ! Meaning you know poeple post things ! Nobody enforce you to sign up to diasp.eu and you could have same problem with FB ! Content providers are not responsible for things poeple share. We are not police. If you're a minor finding shocking being able to find porn on Internet, then why are you stil on it ? What do you parents do ?

Personally, I've had Internet for 14 years. My parents didn't let me go on Internet without a supervision. This is a parent's work, not ours ! You're not helping to anything. So be constructive and clear : what are you asking ?

Anyway, if you think judges will answer your sollicitation on twitter, or even the High Court of Europe, or even NSA, you're totally wrong. Figure it out...

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