Loomio
Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:12PM

Ditching GAFAM

OS Oli SB Public Seen by 190

What would it take for us to get away from the 'death star platforms' of GAFAM and grow a cooperative commons infrastructure...?

BS

Billy Smith Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:46PM

Shared docs - for collaboration on Spreadsheets and Word Processing files
Todo lists - private or shared Kanban-style task boards
File storage - for docs and photos etc
Meeting scheduling tools
Collaborative tools for graphing, mind-/concept-mapping, whiteboarding, etc.
Accessibility

These are the basic tools that i use when collaborating with other people in an online environment. FOr a new system to be viable, it needs to, at least, match the features that are currently available. :D

WO

[email protected] Mon 28 Jun 2021 12:20PM

5GM email + 10GB files storage

I already have cooperative cloud accounts at CommonsCloud.coop, and with my FairPhone3+ from e.foundation I got an email + NextCloud service included that covers most of the above. But I do think there's much space to market these services under cooperative-commons governance models :-)

DF

Diana Finch Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:46PM

Shared docs - for collaboration on Spreadsheets and Word Processing files
File storage - for docs and photos etc
Calendars - create and share multiple calendars
Text chat - in groups or one-to-one
Audio and video calls
Meeting scheduling tools
Todo lists - private or shared Kanban-style task boards
Ad hoc polls
Collaborative tools for graphing, mind-/concept-mapping, whiteboarding, etc.

These are all the functionalities I currently rely on.

BS

Billy Smith Mon 28 Jun 2021 12:55PM

£5/month

This is what i currently pay for my current services.

OS

Oli SB Mon 28 Jun 2021 3:54PM

Thanks Bob - that's the whole point of this new service. Not everyone knows how or has the time to set up their own email, cloud storage and collaborative tools. This services aims to take all the hassle away :)

OS

Oli SB Mon 28 Jun 2021 4:00PM

which options do u mean? Not sure it's easy / possible to recast Qs after the voting has begun... but if u mean the 14 in the first Q (Which of the following reasons is most likely to convince you to move away from Gmail etc? The alternative service should:) the idea is simply to rank these, so we can determine which are the key aspects of the proposition to raise up in our marketing ;)

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spirit Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:46PM

Shared docs - for collaboration on Spreadsheets and Word Processing files
File storage - for docs and photos etc
Calendars - create and share multiple calendars
Contacts - sync your contacts with phones and other devices
Todo lists - private or shared Kanban-style task boards
Text chat - in groups or one-to-one
Audio and video calls
Meeting scheduling tools
Ad hoc polls
Ad hoc payment/measurement/acknowledement recording framework
Collaborative tools for graphing, mind-/concept-mapping, whiteboarding, etc.

Clearly, if the tools created are better than the tools I currently use, I would use any and all of them. But if they are not, I most likely will not adopt until they are, perhaps giving willing to give slightly more sway to open source tools even if the functionality isn't quite as good.

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spirit Sun 27 Jun 2021 1:41PM

 
10 - Never sell your data to anyone else
 
11 - Be powered by open source software
 
12 - Never expose you to advertising
 
13 - Use any profit to help grow the commons
 
14 - Be available on all devices
 
15 - Be governed as a co-operative
 
16 - Be powered by renewable energy
 
17 - Provide a suite comprising calendar plus office tools
 
18 - Provide collaborative tools such as mind-mapping, whiteboard, etc.
 
19 - Be expandable - so you can upgrade your storage
 
20 - Be easy to set up on your phone and computer
 
21 - Allow you to cancel, and export your data, at any time
 
22 - Have great product support
 
23 - Have an uptime guarantee

Loomio is somewhat flawed in that they force you to rank certain items over others even if you feel they are similarly weighted. Nevertheless, I tried my best to workaround this flaw.

GR

Grace (Rebecca Rachmany) Tue 29 Jun 2021 5:19AM

5GM email + 30GB files storage

I use more than that now.

GR

Grace (Rebecca Rachmany) Tue 29 Jun 2021 5:20AM

£3/month

not enough storage.

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