Also. Terminology is consequence of assumptions. It is all about hidden assumptions. Things you/me/we take for granted. Like "value in economy" for example. What is it? What does it represent? How do we define it? For example:

EC Riegel defined “Value” as “ the Relativity of Desire”.

I disagree quite profoundly. Desire is just one of the “dimensions” in Value. One can’t desire things needed for survival. One needs them.

So can we redefine it without "economy based hidden assumptions" - like monetary,-> value is money, you will buy what you "desire".. etc.

What would happen with if we would define “value” in this way:

In evolutionary biology term fitness describes a representation of reproductive success of individual and hence survivability of its genes over time. It encompasses everything that helps individual to be successful in natural selection.

“Value” is “something that enhances the fitness of an ecosystem”.

Imho, that brings in new sets of dimensions. Not just "closed economic" ones.

Thanks for comment. I also have some hidden assumptions, as you can see. :)

Have added this in text to clarify:

It is all about hidden assumptions we have. When thinking about the problems, solving them, we are not aware of those hidden assumptions. And some of them are quite erroneous.

I'm cross posting this from the other (older) Propose a session thread because a few people have been asking about the plan for the "fringe" sessions.

I tried to spell out the way things would work for the OPEN 2020 "fringe" above.

But only @Diana Finch figured out the plan and has added her event to the calendar...

So, in retrospect, I should have made it much more clear.

But also, although we could run the "fringe" events in parallel to the main event on 11th and 12th June, maybe that's not really the best plan because it will mean that people will not be able to attend all the events.

Perhaps a better, less stressful plan, which would give us more time to support and promote the fringe events, would be to run these after the main conference, one per week, on the usual Thursday 4pm (BST) slot we have used for the webinars leading up to the event?

I don't mind really - but don't think it's for me to decide.

The idea was that the fringe events would be self-organised... as we're quite busy organisng the main sessions... and that can still be the case, as with Diana's session on the Bristol Pound if people are happy to pick a meeting tool and date and time and add it to the calendar of events.

But if anyone wants help, organinsing their event, bringing in other panelists or speakers, and help with setting up a meeting space and promotion etc I can help, but realistically not until after June 12th.

Part of OPEN 2020 is about picking the tools we will use to collaborate going forward.

For the main sessions we will be using BigBlueButton brought to us by a new platform co-op https://www.org.meet.coop/ and a different tool for break out spaces and networking.
We will be emailing all ticket holders in the next few days with detailed instructions of how to get familiar with these tools and how to join the conference.

- How do i access the schedule, so i know what timeslots are available?

As above - you can pick any time you like if you're happy for your event to run in parallel to the main sessions. All sessions that are planned so far are listed on the event calendar https://open.coop/events/ or, if you would like support for your event, you could pick a Thursday slot and add it this spreadsheet and/or the calendar let us know how we can help.

- Is there a HowTo for the presenters?

Not yet no. There will be a 'how to' use the new open source video tools (which are only just being set up on a new co-owned sever as I type!) ... hopefully in the next few days.

Everyone who is collaborating on OPEN 2020 is doing so for free and we've never run a fully online conference before so please stick with us! If we can pull it off, using open source tools we co-own... and agree further plans for collaboration after the 12th of June it will be a real step forwards towards co-owning our collective future. ;)

Best
Oli

Building a Fairer World Through OSHW Digitial Fabrication.


I initially posted this in the old thread here, https://www.loomio.org/p/enStB8TF/building-a-fairer-world-through-oshw-digital-fabrication-

As there was a positive reaction, i've set up a Discord instance, which you can join here, https://discord.gg/FaEYH8

This is the first time i have set up a Discord server, so there will be teething troubles, so please bear with me. :D

Hi All,

Just a quick reminder that this session providing an update on The Bristol Pound will happen this Thursday at 4pm BST on Zoom. This is the new date (sorry for any confusion) hope to see you all there - please spread the word to anyone you think might be interested - There will be breakout sessions to discuss token economics and use cases ....

Thanks, Oli!

Best wishes

Diana

Diana, that was fascinating! I love it when people talk about the problems as well as the success stories.

@Oli SB and @Diana Finch - where will the discussion on this session take place? Seemed like a lot of issues to discuss. I was not online at the time, just caught the recording, but have some questions for some of the questioners as well as Ms Finch.

@Michael Linton , I'm talking to you, for example...(Hi, not arguing, just asking, don't worry...)

Bob - always good to hear what you have to say, and happy to respond to any questions in my zone

@Bob Haugen – I’m not great at long conversations in written form – life is very busy right now and we move towards the launch of Bristol Pay. But I’m happy to arrange a follow up zoom for another half hour or hour of questions if that’s helpful. Feel free to email me to arrange that – [email protected].

Best wishes

Diana

Thanks, but not necessary. My question is mostly for Michael, and was a followup about taxes..and Michael wanted to chat elsewhere, too.
But if anything interesting comes of it, we can report back here...