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August 11th, 2017 06:21

A Journalistic integrity policy

Tane Harre
Tane Harre Public Seen by 504

As I try to research and reference news I find it progressively harder to find links that still work the further back in time I go.

I suggest that to be able to post something as news in New Zealand, a copy (and separate copies of all updates, should have to be held by the government in a publicly (perhaps after a week?) searchable database.

News organisations absolutely have the right to reconfigure their sites. The problem is link rot.

For example at the moment I am looking at the past articles on Thompson and Clark and (for instance) 10 out of the 15 news articles listed on Source Watch no longer exist.

Not having a backup of the articles not only allows New Zealand history to disappear, but also encourages a rewrite of history in the future.

Jo Booth

Jo Booth August 11th, 2017 09:06

For years a society I'm part of of has deposited its magazine with the national library - and looking at their archives there some 27 million other newspaper articles including online publications archived. Maybe we need to encourage and support this kind of preservation of our culture but also our "history". Archives NZ do it for government sources and so why shouldn't a public archive of journalistic articles be preserved independently...

Colin Smith

Colin Smith August 11th, 2017 09:16

If I recall correctly Tane, you and I were talking about this during the last election. (Iris Café)

Suzie Dawson

Suzie Dawson August 11th, 2017 12:05

@taneharre this practice is not accidental but deliberate.

When I source NZ MSM articles re spying / dodgy govt behaviour in my articles, the links are broken within days of publication. NZ Herald is a serial offender. So is TVNZ. They deliberately move the story links.

Another practice I have come across is news articles being posted after the fact and backdated. Both of these should be completely illegal.

The solution isn't the govt but the archives. You will note when WL share information they will share an archive.org copy of the page. Journalistic best practice is now to source all links in an article as archive.org versions rather than the original source links, to prevent this kind of meddling.

Miriam Mallinder

Miriam Mallinder August 11th, 2017 17:55

yes but the meddling happens, so how do we stop it? and can you always find the original versions?

BC

ben cooney August 18th, 2017 03:12

The 4th estate is dead..... This is a travesty.... When we were young nz had the reputation as having the most free and critical media on the planet. Sadly as part as the drive towards a neo liberal infotainment wasteland we have seen this destroyed... I feel thst we must fight for journalistic integrity... We deserve this and we must have it again.... A free and critical media is the foundation of a thriving democracy

BC

ben cooney August 18th, 2017 05:27

Thank you! Wow there are some heavy hitters on that panel... I wish i could go! Dammit

IA

idiom axiom August 21st, 2017 08:09

MSM journalists are having their livelihoods undecut by the internet. Let them die.

Twitter and Youtube are taking their revenue. Its why the WSJ went after PewDiePie and the Nazi meme exists.

Only the MSM can keep you safe from the big bad Nazis on the internet!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-beYBLrkNAg

IP Jo Booth

IP Jo Booth August 22nd, 2017 04:49

Interestingly, National Library have requested an archive of our campaign....

The National Library of New Zealand collects copies of New Zealand websites which are preserved for their current interest, historical and research value. Every election year we capture political party and candidate sites across the political spectrum, which are archived in the National Digital Heritage Archive, and form part of the New Zealand General Election Web Collection. These have traditionally been websites that we have copied using the National Library’s web harvester. We have noticed the increasing use of social media in political campaigns and we want to reflect this change in our collections.

This election year, under legal deposit legislation, we are requesting a copy of your public Twitter account https://twitter.com/InternetPartyNZ. We are unable to harvest the site using our in-house web harvester for technical reasons. However Twitter allows you to download a copy of your Twitter account as a zipped file and we would like you to do this once the elections are over and send us a copy.

For information about Legal deposit see http://natlib.govt.nz/legaldeposit

Please do not hesitate to contact me, if you have any questions.

Johnny Canuck

Johnny Canuck September 26th, 2017 12:59

5th Estate, NEW Media, World Alternative Media, FANN (Fringe Alternative News Network) https://www.minds.com/groups/profile/673027543741243396/activity

Fred Look

Fred Look September 26th, 2017 23:53

yup journalistic integrity policy is necessary
1 disestablish the herald! (joke! but they really do cross the line an a very deliberate and manipulative way) would it not be possible to make formal complaint to EC that they no longer be protected as a "news provider" and then appropriate fine placed for failing to provide a promoters statement as other campaigners are required to do?

Johnny Canuck

Johnny Canuck October 3rd, 2017 14:17

While the internet has clearly changed the rules 2 the game somewhat, even we "freebooters" must work within certain established parameters of style, form, & manner of inquiry. Corporate hacks, meanwhile, sell their souls from the very start. Ethics & integrity is NOT the issue. Selling copy & claiming the HIGHEST ratings is. Fake news? #FACTCHECK - Caveat emptor .......