Loomio

A different group structure in Loomio

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Poll Created Thu 13 Sep 2012 10:01AM

A different group structure in Loomio Closed Sat 15 Sep 2012 11:56PM

The proposal is that the existing group structure
- Diaspora Community
-- Documentation Team
-- diasporaproject.org
-- Developer Proposals
etc.

is replaces by the following group structure
- Diaspora Developer
- Diaspora Documentation
- Diaspora Governance
- Diasporaproject.org

and each group should decide their sub structure (sub-groups).

Main argument: For the moment Loomio only use a two-level-structure, but we are not taking advantage of the top level.

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 30.0% 3 A T SH
Abstain 30.0% 3 FS F DY
Disagree 40.0% 4 ST JH JR BB
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 90 JL BK DS MS TS AA S CB HF BO DM GC JH M EG G AX PC PP LP

10 of 100 people have voted (10%)

JH

Jonne Haß
Disagree
Thu 13 Sep 2012 10:06AM

That just leads to smaller groups and with that to decisions made on smaller bases. With the current structure I can easily discover what's there.

A

altruism
Agree
Thu 13 Sep 2012 10:26AM

I see it as necessary, flat structures are nice when the community (and the content) is a small, but very soon it needs structure (more levels in this case).

JR

Jason Robinson
Disagree
Thu 13 Sep 2012 10:46AM

I see no benefit in this change

A

altruism
Agree
Thu 13 Sep 2012 10:46AM

I see it as necessary, flat structures are nice when the community (and the content) is small, but very soon it needs structure (more levels in this case).

SH

Steven Hancock
Agree
Thu 13 Sep 2012 11:22AM

While I don't think we should immediately do this, I think providing more structure by organizing things into subgroups will be a good idea once we have more people here on Loom.io

FS

Florian Staudacher
Abstain
Thu 13 Sep 2012 11:58AM

Not sure, the volume of activity is already pretty high, maybe splitting it up would be good if we're expected to see even more growth. OTOH I'd really like to stay informed without having to sift through multiple groups...

ST

Sean Tilley
Abstain
Thu 13 Sep 2012 4:49PM

I could see this being useful in the future, but perhaps it's a bit early to shift the existing groups around.

ST

Sean Tilley
Disagree
Thu 13 Sep 2012 4:51PM

Actually, upon thinking about it: subgroups are useful because they're linked together to the parent group. Splitting them off may not be the best idea right now, as it might cause members to miss out.

F

Flaburgan
Abstain
Thu 13 Sep 2012 4:55PM

I don't know if we should use groups or subgroups, but we certainly need an organization..

BB

Brent Bartlett
Abstain
Thu 13 Sep 2012 7:06PM

I think it's too early to make this decision. We should watch how things develop, and if an organization problem comes up later, then we can re-org.

BB

Brent Bartlett
Disagree
Thu 13 Sep 2012 7:07PM

I think it's too early to make this decision. We should watch how things develop, and if an organization problem comes up later, then we can re-org.

T

tortoise
Agree
Fri 14 Sep 2012 12:35AM

Let's try it and see what happens.

A

altruism Thu 13 Sep 2012 10:52AM

I wonder why the Loomio developers decided not to use a flat structure, with only groups and no subgroups.

A

altruism Thu 13 Sep 2012 10:59AM

Jonne, you get an overview of all groups and can discover what's there if you press the loomio logo.

A

altruism Thu 13 Sep 2012 11:05AM

Jason, you see no benefit? Look again, take some time, you have 3 days :)

JH

Jonne Haß Thu 13 Sep 2012 11:22AM

I can get an overview of the groups I'm in. My point is that there's no overview of what's out there.

A

altruism Thu 13 Sep 2012 11:47AM

Steve, the proposal is to go from ONE group (as it is now) to say FOUR groups. Transforming some of the subgroups (asi it is now) to groups. From there it will be easier to organize - when we have more people here.

JR

Jason Robinson Thu 13 Sep 2012 5:21PM

Sean, does Loom.io even have a move discussion/proposal functionality?

Tried looking for this info but realized it would mean looking in to the code :)

T

tortoise Thu 13 Sep 2012 6:05PM

If there were a way to move things as they develop, that would be the best thing, IMHO.

How can we tell the future? I say we follow the tracks that people make and when enough people are making tracks, a path is laid. Then when we are getting too much mud on our shoes we decide to lay down cobblestone, and then with more people comes laying down asphalt, and so on and so on.

ST

Sean Tilley Thu 13 Sep 2012 6:24PM

@Jason: I don't see any functions for it, but at the very least, I can make a strong case for it with their dev team.

T

tortoise Thu 13 Sep 2012 6:55PM

@Sean I think we should inquire to Loom about it!

DY

Dave Yingling Fri 14 Sep 2012 6:57PM

It is still early days and I am ambivalent whether we try to stick it out with existing structure or try something new. Both options have advantages. Either way is fine with me. I am starting to think bettermeans is a better option, but couldn't get past the ssl waring. I know that ship has sailed.