Founding members for the asbl ......

I propose to make a group of people how are interested in the creation of national cohesion . No official profile, with open mind, In a way where energy is not wasted, with a realistic approach.How are looking for the things important for the whole country and not only local. how use the local experiences to strengthen the national awareness . Not imposing anything to anyone but asking questions that can serve that goal. In fact, some of us are already doing this. If this group (always open for everyone) shows his value to the whole country, it might become something like a vzw-asbl later. If it does not we try other ways until we have something acceptable. I should have put this in another topic,but am not a Loomio specialist.

In my experience, you gain trust by providing a service, and once proven usefull, it can be officialized. Would you agree to start with the newsletter as a cohesion tool?

I heard about that before. forgot about it. What is the present status of this project? (anyway, I agree)

We have an automated newsletter for the english-speaking part of the website, it sends the recent articles and upcoming events.

We are about to send December's newsletter next thuesday and schedule the automated sending on the 2nd thuesday of each month.

We could use a team that makes a job similar to http://piratetimes.net/ but for belgian activities. Involving the navigators would be a plus.
A regular translation team would allow us to activate the french and dutch speaking newsletter aswell.

To help translating content for the website (and maybe more, but it's a start of some sort).

What about putting names (@valeried (fr,en,nl) , @willemmarijnissen (nl, fr, en) , @hgo (etc) , @iljabaert (etc) , @santty (etc) , ...) in the description of the Website Squad?

This can provide for elders or new comers an idea about our translation capable people who would like to dedicate their time to the website content, under the Website Squad group?

The description of a group can be edited as often as required if some of those translators are not available, wishes to leave or join.

It's an idea but it is easy to set up.

I like ideas that are easy to setup, so...:-)

It looks like there are still some hot items of discussion regarding the ASBL/VZW ...

As proven by the voting on the last GA and reactions on FB there is still a major interest to create a national structure in the form of a asbl. Maybe it could be a good practice to discuss these hot items further so we can find a solution to all the arguments.... It makes no sense to have structure if their are still questions or opposition. As long as there are reasonable arguments ....

The creation of a newsletter looks like a good idea but is not the topic. Please make a new one.... en transfer or delete this from this thread? For the ease of reading?

I would like to propose to make a wiki ? where we can assemble the arguments contra for further discussion ?

Some links about vzw/asbl history in the Belgian Pirate Party on this vzw pad.

There is no need to create a newsletter, but improve to one(s) we have and which is based on the content of the pirateparty.be website.

There is already a wiki page Asbl-vzw creation.

To my knowledge and the knowledge of its statutes, vzw/asbl is about the accounting of the ppbe account (+ it contracts, ...) and keeping track of a list with who can do what or is interested in what and bring those together. (the website form "Get Involved" initially) It can do other stuff too, if it wants to. No decision has been made on how the account should be regulated yet: there is the proposal of cobudget, ... So, this vzw/asbl is 1/ not urgent 2/ can be set up with minimum effort. Democracy squad is higher priority to me.