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Tue 6 Dec 2016 10:40PM

Founding members for the asbl ......

JVO Jan Van Opstal Public Seen by 387

It seems that Jan Cabouter is not further candidate to form a asbl.
The Crew in Mechelen is still pro to form a asbl.
Who will be the founding members now? etc....

TF

Thierry Fenasse Wed 7 Dec 2016 5:41AM

Why don't they do a vzw "Crew Mechelen" if it's suits their needs?

SD

Sandrine Debatty Wed 7 Dec 2016 7:20AM

Le but, c'était de faire une asbl nationale, pas une asbl de crew.

TF

Thierry Fenasse Wed 7 Dec 2016 8:13AM

Ben clairement, le but n'est pas atteint. :sweat_smile:

KDV

Koen De Voegt Wed 7 Dec 2016 8:43AM

The smile of a saboteur...

Small pathetic people like you are the downfall of this organisation.

H

HgO Wed 7 Dec 2016 11:45AM

Sure, without @tierce we would have made so much progress... :(
Please don't take your case for a generality. You cannot make people who didn't (want to) participate in your project responsible for its failure.

V

Vincent Wed 7 Dec 2016 6:08PM

Oh great! Now it's our fault if it took weeks to get 4 people around a table to apply the general assembly's decision.
People are feeling demotivated because we didn't cheer loud enough? Come on, you are talking to people who have made this decision valid by providing minutes to the GA. I even had to provide the Google doc's link to Jan who had lost it.

Now, one person is missing and the project is threatened? Wasn't this non-profit supposed to bring more stability?

Get this thing done and let's move on!

PI

Patrick Installé Wed 7 Dec 2016 10:16AM

The downfall is the illusion of democracy. Power of voter who are not doer. The illusion is emotion without reflecsion.

JVO

Jan Van Opstal Wed 7 Dec 2016 12:48PM

In first instance we are talking about a national asbl. Voted positive in the last GA.

It is not clear why Jan Cabouters end his mission now, he once started, cause of lack of debreefing ...

Are all francophone and Brabant pirates against the forming of a national asbl?

Or are there also crews who see the positive advantages such a structure can provide....

Or is this the division bell ? and a split between pirates in this country on language and culture differences?

Make up your mind .... If there are candidates to form a national asbl please come foreward ?!

H

HgO Wed 7 Dec 2016 1:14PM

Everything isn't binary, black or white, 0 or 1. I am not totally against a national asbl, but I'm against this one. I won't explain here, but we gave our feedback about this asbl during the GA and at other moments, see this pad and this one for instance.

I don't see a correlation between language / country / culture and the creation of a national asbl. However, I can see a difference of methodology between regions. If you find polarization inside the party interesting, please have a look at this pad.

As for your call for candidates, I hope for you that this will work, but don't expect me to take part in this. I think I gave enough of my time for that project (I gave my feedback, opinion, etc. but I don't think this was quite useful).

JVO

Jan Van Opstal Thu 8 Dec 2016 8:24PM

In order to get things done....

There are candidates in Antwerp and Mechelen.... But what about other parts of the country....

It would be great if we have a representation covering the country more or less.

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