Loomio
March 26th, 2019 23:01

Application and acceptance of Local Board accomodation grant

cstewart000
cstewart000 Public Seen by 159

We are applying for an accomodation grant via the local council board. Funding is to help pay for rent of the spaces so that membership fees can be invested more directly in purchasing more tools, materials and consumables. There are some conditions that come with accepting money from the local board. These will be described below:

+photos of the activity are to be provided to the local board
• invitation to the activity to be extended to the local board
• speaking opportunity for local board delegate at any event, function, project launch
• inclusion of local board logo on advertising and display of local board branding at events
• reference to local board funding in any media releases or other communication to the public.

cstewart000

cstewart000 started a proposal March 26th, 2019 23:23

Are you happy to accept local board funding and comply with their requirements Closed 12:01pm - Wednesday 3 Apr 2019

Agree = Take the money (if we get it) and comply with the below:

• photos of the activity are to be provided to the local board
• invitation to the activity to be extended to the local board
• speaking opportunity for local board delegate at any event, function, project launch
• inclusion of local board logo on advertising and display of local board branding at events
• reference to local board funding in any media releases or other communication to the public

Disagree = keep HL independent

Results
Block - 0
Disagree - 1
Abstain - 0
Agree - 11
12 people have voted (0%)
Simon

Simon March 26th, 2019 23:31

I presume "photos of the activity are to be provided to the local board" can be already met easily with the existing stock of photos. I also presume "speaking opportunity for local board delegate at any event, function, project launch" will not happen often, if at all. Also, does "inclusion of local board logo on advertising and display of local board branding at events" mean we just need to add a logo on the website and/or Meetup.com (for the events) and to put a local board sticker on the wall? Would rent cover both HL and HL++?

R B

R B
Agree
March 26th, 2019 23:56

The positives outweigh the negatives. It would be like we're leveling up.

Karsten Sperling

Karsten Sperling
Abstain
March 27th, 2019 00:09

How much funding are we potentially talking about?

Karsten Sperling

Karsten Sperling March 27th, 2019 00:13

How much funding would we potentially get, and why is it an “accommodation” grant?

Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke March 27th, 2019 00:25

the grant is available for between $2,500 and $20,000 - our current rental expendature is around: $40,000

Karsten Sperling

Karsten Sperling
Agree
March 27th, 2019 00:30

cstewart000

cstewart000 March 27th, 2019 00:35

Functionally, I would expect so. Many of the requirements will probably not be acted upon.
The rest of them are pretty easy to meet

Amanda Chapman

Amanda Chapman
Agree
March 27th, 2019 03:06

Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke
Agree
March 27th, 2019 04:36

I think it's pretty great we've got this far without outside help, but I also think council injecting a bunch of funds into our group will do a lot of good - and this particular way of doing it has very few strings attached

R

Ryan
Disagree
March 27th, 2019 04:57

I'm unfamiliar with a lot of how Hackland or the council actually works, so take this with a grain of salt.

Being beholden to the council doesn't really bode well, in my opinion. If we become reliant on the money they give to us - if they even do - it means that they could start introducing other policies that members may not like or agree with, and we would be forced into adoption, as to not lose the money.

baptiste

baptiste
Agree
March 27th, 2019 05:31

It s worth a try - if Hackland gets the funding, we can test it out for one year and see if there is any issues w local council. That would be a nice relief/bonus for the place. And might allow a little budget for new project/idea/big fixes. Happy to contribute with the writing.

AndroidBloke

AndroidBloke
Agree
March 27th, 2019 06:36

OMG, I didn't know the rent was so high. Take the money, take the money!!! BTW, when is the application due? Because if we get media coverage for ALoT's launch party from a newspaper/magazine/TV station it will increase our odds of getting a grant and obtaining the maximum amount. How? Coupled with the glowing magazine article on HL, https://tinyurl.com/yyscrskt it will showcase and provide evidence that HL engages/assists/contributes/supports the local community :fingers_crossed:

Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke March 27th, 2019 07:05

Just a reminder to please write a reason why you vote a certain way (this is especially important if you disagree)

The reason it's important is because if people disagree, we should explore why someone disagrees and if there's some way the proposal can be changed so everyone is happy

Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke March 27th, 2019 07:45

After talking with @ryan11 I suggest we add a condition that we never commit to spending more than we're organically getting in, without council support (so as to avoid any dependency or lock in)

Simon

Simon March 27th, 2019 08:33

I think that's a really good thought. The last thing you want is to become reliant on the money to remain open. That would mean that we need to set the requested amount to the value of the current incoming donations. I think the council will see this as prudent. I would vote yes, with this condition.

Robbie Cameron

Robbie Cameron
Agree
March 27th, 2019 20:12

Hamish MacDonald

Hamish MacDonald
Agree
March 28th, 2019 18:13

Steve Hind

Steve Hind
Agree
March 28th, 2019 21:41

I think this is a good chance for the council to see what Hackland is and that there are plenty of people interested in community workshops and shared spaces. The terms that they offered seem fair and if Hackland is seen to be partnered with Auckland Council, some people may be more inclined to join or take part as well. Win Win

Linda Allan

Linda Allan
Agree
March 29th, 2019 17:23

Mr CK

Mr CK
Agree
April 2nd, 2019 19:55