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2015 NATS

MP Mike Polo [TIM] Public Seen by 138

Hi Guys,

Abit of chat amongst the polo community re: Nats 2015.

We have had semi yarns around this with old email thread etc.

What's people's thoughts.

Mike - Timaru

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Ollie BNE Fri 26 Sep 2014 2:37AM

The hard thing is allocating slots. Brisbane had five teams in the top 13. There were also five nz teams in the top 13.

We are happy to host a qualifier in Brisbane, but it will be hard to alocate slots with 24 teams.

If Timaru and BNE hosted qualifiers it would be less complicated, and cheaper to run as both clubs have tourney courts already.

If we were to do a combined Nats we should limit entry to teams wantig to qualify to the worlds main tourney. All other teams can register for the wild card.

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Ollie BNE Fri 26 Sep 2014 2:39AM

I would limit BNE, SYD and MLB to 4 slots each. But that would be half the slots of the tourney to three cities. Fuck. See it's really hard.

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Alan [AKL] Fri 26 Sep 2014 2:57AM

Ollie, what do you think of my suggestion for the regional allocation? 5 Aus, 3 NZ (+ 2 Timaru teams as hosts) Gives us 10 spots total. Four more than any other year, but also recognizes that Australia's scene is bigger than New Zealand's. Other local teams may end up qualifying via wildcard.

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Brook [SYD] Fri 26 Sep 2014 3:09AM

@alanengland allocations for WHBPC should be a separate discussion. Allocating spots for Timaru is very tricky thing and completely reliant on how many spots in total are available, i.e. 48 or 64 - which hasn't been decided yet.

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Alan [AKL] Fri 26 Sep 2014 3:10AM

Oh sorry, was just following on from Ollie. Will keep my mouth shut. But for the record, we'd support a 64 slot competition since we have so many courts and volunteers.

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NickDW [CBR] Fri 26 Sep 2014 3:54AM

@alanengland Ollie is talking slots for a joint but capped Nats so if you've got an opinion on that breakdown it'd be good to hear as you've been supportive of a joint Nats rather than split.

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Punk (PER) Fri 26 Sep 2014 4:19AM

PCP is for a combined nats with limited spots per city/club even if it meant every club had limited spots, say use a active member to number of spots ratio to allocate. as for a total number of teams well that's up for debate and clearly what's viable. our bigger question is though timing of nats, a month before worlds, a week? if it was close enough most PCP members would just fly east play nats and then head straight to NZ to help set up etc.

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NickDW [CBR] Fri 26 Sep 2014 4:27AM

So I had a look on podium for the results of the last two years. Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne accounted for half the top 24 on average over those years - so giving them half the teams for 2015 would be reasonable. Perth had two each year. Timaru an average of 2.5 if I'm reading it right. Auckland 1, Christchurch 1.5, Wellington 1.5.

On average over the two years there were 14.5 Aus teams, 7 NZ teams, and 2.5 teams I'm not sure about.

So I'd suggest:
BNE - 4
SYD - 4
MLB - 4
PER - 2
TIU - 2
CHC - 1
AKL - 1
WLG - 1

The remaining 5 spots we leave open to smaller AUS clubs (Hobart, Newcastle, Canberra, Adelaide) and all NZ clubs - potentially on a first in best dressed basis - with the understanding that Nats is to qualify for the main tourney at Worlds.

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Andy Balcar CHC Fri 26 Sep 2014 5:36AM

  1. First a point of order - I don't think personal arguments for or against a proposal should be included in the proposal. I thought that was what this bit was for - otherwise it appears slightly biased - well it does to me anyway.
  2. As stated earlier my points above were personal and probably don't represent all of ChCh - I need to see what the other players think - they may well like the idea of a NZ based tournament just down the road.
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Ollie BNE Fri 26 Sep 2014 6:09AM

NZ only sent six teams out of 40. More NZ teams will get to play if there is a local qualifier: and then everyone will still get to go to the worlds wild card.

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