A discussion-starter from the active membership of the Pirate Party of NZ
He mihi nui ki te rōpu Internet Party
We, the active membership of the Pirate Party of NZ (www.pirateparty.org.nz), the local affiliate of Pirate Parties International, send our warm regards to our fellow geek activists in the active membership of the Internet Party of NZ.
Firstly, we seek political cooperation with your party. We feel that the memberships of both parties can make more progress in campaigns on policies we agree on, if we communicate, collaborate, and see if we can move in the same direction, at the same time.
Secondly, further to this proposal to actively work together, we would like to open formal discussions about the possibility of merging our two parties. We believe that in a small country like ours, working together to build one socially progressive, digital-liberty party would be more effective than having two competing with each other. From your experience with the Mana Movement, it seems clear that any political alliance is much more likely to work if developed slowly, and thoughtfully, with full consensus and engagement of both memberships, and well before election year.
Both parties seem to us to have a lot in common. Both support the socially progressive use of technology. In line with this, both have engaged in exciting experiments in deep democracy, using our Loomio groups to engage any interested member in party decision-making.
Both prioritize the protection of human rights, civil liberties, and personal privacy, both online and offline. In line with this, we have both shown a willingness to stand up for rational but controversial policies, similar discussions and outcomes regarding drug law reform and UBI can be seen as examples. This opens up potential to work with the active membership of the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party and the New Economics Party.
One of the traditional divisions between libertarians is whether we ally ourselves with economically with the "left" or the "right". Just as the Greens transcend this false dichotomy with their own economic approaches, we can formulate economic approaches based on open source collaboration ("co-production", "peer-to-peer production", "social production", "collaborative consumption", "crowdsourcing"). This opens up even more potential to work with the active membership of the New Economics Party.
If there is interest from the Internet Party membership in entering into negotiations on the possibility of merging, our bottom lines can be summed up by the following criteria:
The resulting organisation will:
- be committed to a bottom-up organisational architecture,
- be committed to the core values that have been emphasised by the PPNZ community (human rights, civil liberties, free culture, personal privacy, transparent governance, net neutrality),
- be committed to a Code of Conduct that ensures a friendly environment for a diverse community, both in online channels, and in-person gatherings,
- not have any constitutional guarantees for named persons to have control over particular offices without being elected into their role.
We strongly advocate that the resulting organisation would use the name "Pirate Party", in solidarity with Pirate Parties around the world who share our values, and in order to benefit from the international recognition of this name, and what it stands for. However, we are open to other suggestions. Due to a recent rule change in PPI, any resulting organisation could continue as the official NZ affiliate of PPI, even without the word Pirate in the name.
EDIT: Just to clarify, as there has been some confusion on these points:
* we are open to working under any party name, so we would be willing to merge with the Internet Party under your name, or a new name, if the criteria listed above are met
* we are not insisting on the resulting party being a member of PPI, just noting that its a possibility, with or without the merged party using the Pirate name
Dan van Wylich Fri 24 Jul 2015 4:42AM
Which leads us back to what @strypey says about: 'The basic concept is to replace the Board with a network of WG (Working Groups eg communications, infrastructure, policy etc). One way to envision it is a set of subcommittees without a committee....'
This can all be run online... after all, we are supposed to be the Internet Party.
Brigid Ford Sat 25 Jul 2015 6:52AM
I'd agree to a merger with the Pirate Party; any party with similar policies to ours.
Danyl Strype Sun 2 Aug 2015 9:40AM
For anyone interested in the wider context within which the NZ Pirates operate, our outgoing President Andrew Reitemeyer, recently elected Chair of Pirate Parties International (PPI), was interviewed by Kim Hill this weekend:
http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20150801-0907-andrew_reitemeyer_pirate_parties-00.ogg
Andrew briefly mentioned that the Pirates are having this merger exploration discussion with the Internet Party, to which Kim asked "isn't that brand tainted"? Interesting that Kim would regurgitate a phrase that sounds very much like a key message from a National PR strategy. It was a nonsense question, and Andrew handled it well by saying that the supporters of both parties are people who value substance over symbolism or "branding".
Danyl Strype Sun 2 Aug 2015 8:44PM
So, it appears everyone who cares to comment is keen for the IP to work with the Pirates in some capacity, and at least a few members support the idea of a merger. Where to next?
I am going to put up a proposal for a merger. Ideally, the discussion this sets off will allow IP members to come up with a set of bottom lines, just as the Pirates did (see the bottom of the discussion-starter) when we discussed the idea of a potential merger. Then, we can see if the two sets of bottom lines are compatible and go from there.
How does that sound?
Poll Created Sun 2 Aug 2015 8:48PM
Internet Party and Pirate Party of NZ Federate and Put Up a Combined Party List in 2017 Closed Wed 12 Aug 2015 6:40AM
There were strong objections to both the association with the name "Pirate", and the idea of a federation as opposed to a full merger, although not all members hold either objection.
I propose that the active memberships of the Internet Party and the Pirate Party of NZ federate and put forward a single party list to contest the 2017 election. Each party would continue to exist as an autonomous organisation, with its own structures and processes, but a federated structure (yet to be named) would be formed to facilitate cooperative campaigning, and decisions about party list. Other parties may be invited to join the federation and campaign with us in 2017 if there is a suitable fit of values and policies.
Results
Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 33.3% | 3 | |
Abstain | 11.1% | 1 | ||
Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
Block | 55.6% | 5 | ||
Undecided | 0% | 620 |
9 of 629 people have participated (1%)
Ross Burrows
Mon 3 Aug 2015 1:49AM
That's all we need now, an association with a party called 'pirates'.
William Asiata
Mon 3 Aug 2015 4:06AM
For electorates/party list, each party puts best candidate forward for each seat using respective party processes, then the overall party federation membership votes for preferred candidates to run for seats. (Again using my proposed PAV method).
Fred Look
Mon 3 Aug 2015 5:56AM
The internet party is not ready to take a position on this at this time nor is there any compelling reason to do so in haste
Jo Booth
Mon 3 Aug 2015 7:20AM
I like the idea of having a combined set of candidates - too many electorates didn't have local people last election, and while KDC et all want us to stand alone - I think we are stronger united.
Colin England · Thu 23 Jul 2015 11:45PM
Just democracy where everyone has a say and not just the rich and the corporations.