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Wed 19 Mar 2014 4:07AM

2014 General Election

DS Danyl Strype Public Seen by 37

The date for the 2014 general election has been set for 20 September. This is about 6 months from now, and we need to make some decisions:

  • How we are going to get the Party registered with the Electoral Commission?
  • How we are going to approve electorate candidates?
  • How are we going to decide our party list rankings?
  • What is our overall election strategy?
PC

Peter Cummuskey
Agree
Wed 16 Apr 2014 2:39AM

As much as I hate the idea of another election without the Pirate Party on the list as an option, I agree with the arguments put forward for not jumping in just yet. Until there's some clearer internal participation and numbers, we should stay out.

HM

Hubat McJuhes
Agree
Thu 17 Apr 2014 9:31PM

I still expect to get some numbers and serious input from the board!

PA

Peter Ajamian
Disagree
Fri 18 Apr 2014 4:16AM

The proposal, as written, would block the party from putting forth a list if circumstances change for the better. Since I have to vote irt the proposal as it is written then I must say "no" to this.

DS

Danyl Strype Mon 7 Apr 2014 12:07PM

So, I think there is general agreement that local chapters, where they exist, should have the final say on candidates in their electorate, but that currently only applies to Wellington. Is there anyone who is keen to run as a Pirate candidate elsewhere in the country?

I will talk to Abe about Dunedin North, although he might be running for the Cannabis Party. I'm considering running myself.

RU

Rob Ueberfeldt Mon 7 Apr 2014 11:02PM

I saw an email saying we are gaining members at a rapid rate. If we have the numbers I say we should run as party.

DS

Danyl Strype Tue 8 Apr 2014 1:51AM

With what objectives @robueberfeldt ? Could you and @davidpeterson please explain what you disagree with in my comment above about the likely outcome?

RU

Rob Ueberfeldt Tue 8 Apr 2014 9:12AM

I would like an estimate of our membership numbers before I answer that. If our membership increases quickly enough for us to register over the next couple of weeks then I would take that as sign.

DP

David Peterson Tue 8 Apr 2014 10:59AM

@strypey , seems you are mixing up what you see as a likely outcome with what should be a goal. This don't have to be the same thing. (arguably they should never be)

DS

Danyl Strype Tue 8 Apr 2014 4:56PM

Running candidates would achieve the goal of giving more people experience with both being candidates and working in campaign teams. It would organically build our organisational structure at the same time as building membership.

Let's say we had 500 members now. What would be the goal of campaigning for the party vote which even @davidpeterson acknowledges we won't get, alienating potential supporters who have got behind the IP, and worst case scenario, stopping a party who support all our policies (copyright reform, surveillance, open government, digital education etc) getting to 5%? How can we win more than we lost on this?

RU

Rob Ueberfeldt Wed 9 Apr 2014 7:03AM

I still need to know what our membership is 'doing' if we just managed 500 and going static or 500 and climbing. If their is interest in the party then I would like to run, IP isn't any reason not to run. I too am thinking of the long term and if we can set up now as brand then when IP implodes or not we are set to go. Either way we need a PP in NZ if not this election then next. IP is no long term replacement to what we are offering.

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