Running our own mailing lists?
I thought it would be a cool idea to have our own, independent Mailman mailing lists somewhere and not to rely on Google Groups.
A lot of people who like Diaspora* are privacy aware and are not comfortable with sharing their email info with Google. I have a spare Linode instance, so I could host those mailing lists, only if anyone is interested in having something like that.
Poll Created Wed 21 Nov 2012 12:57PM
Run our own mailing list to avoid Google dependancy Closed Wed 12 Dec 2012 11:51PM
Advantages to keep Google :
- Nothing to manage
- Already in place
- Good availability
- Interaction with user using a G account
Advantages to run our own mailing list :
- Privacy issue with Google (everything posted on a G service is owned by Google, they can publish a book called "all the secrets of the Diaspora project" if they want :p) (I know the mailing list is already public, but they have the possession of our discussions, it's not to us anymore.)
- No Term of Service anymore
- Really easy to deploy
- We don't depend of Google, which means they can't cut the service or say "it's not free anymore"
|Results||Option||% of points||Voters|
||Agree||37.5%||12||T S RS- B MYR|
|Abstain||25.0%||8||F B M|
|Disagree||34.4%||11||JT DU C|
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32 of 278 people have voted (11%)
Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:04PM
if you can avoid google, do so. purely ideological. drawback: google will index everything anyways.
Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:05PM
Strong no. We have working Google lists that are zero maintenance and available without a Google account. Let's keep something that works instead of changing things for no reason.
Wed 21 Nov 2012 3:54PM
I have no objections if someone volunteers to maintain it. One point people missed here is, google groups is a non-free service, probably we may be happy with the service they currently give, but how about if we need a new feature?
Wed 21 Nov 2012 6:28PM
Wow, instead of Google would run the lists. It's not easy to set up, hundreds of people need to switch. I could go on...
Wed 21 Nov 2012 6:29PM
Wow, instead of Google random person would run the lists. It's not easy to set up, hundreds of people need to switch. I could go on...
Wed 21 Nov 2012 6:38PM
If someone wants to spend time in it, do it, but let's stop discussing this topic. I don't think that google is the Dr. Evil of all time, but I wouldn't mind if someone makes a new mailing list. Rock on!
Thu 22 Nov 2012 5:00AM
Haven't seen any good arguments for it, and there are several good arguments against it. Also, there are much more important things to deal with. This seems like a nitpick.
Thu 22 Nov 2012 5:06AM
Please run Diaspora's own mailing list, from diaspora maintainer controlled & owned domain-name. Such should stop 3rd-parties from unethically censoring/oppressing contents + you can add further custom privacy related settings & feats. Thanks.
Thu 22 Nov 2012 4:34PM
If Diaspora is privacy aware, how can that happen if you require people to give an ID at the door if they want to contribute to the project. To me, Googlelists filters people out. D* is a private club feigning open source, it is not open source.
Thu 29 Nov 2012 11:12PM
I think for the interim, the Google Groups mailing list is fine as far as functionality is concerned. I'm not opposed to implementing a mailing list system in the future, and would like to integrate it into our infrastructure, but not yet.
Sat 1 Dec 2012 12:37PM
with so many things not quite working and features missing, I really feel like we should stick with a mailing list that is currently working just fine (and is extremely quiet anyway, why does this need so much attention?)
Tue 11 Dec 2012 11:22AM
Christoph's comment convinced me to change my vote to no.