Running our own mailing lists?
Petar Petrović
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I thought it would be a cool idea to have our own, independent Mailman mailing lists somewhere and not to rely on Google Groups.
A lot of people who like Diaspora* are privacy aware and are not comfortable with sharing their email info with Google. I have a spare Linode instance, so I could host those mailing lists, only if anyone is interested in having something like that.
Bry8Star Wed 21 Nov 2012 9:41AM
My current understanding is, Google has become point of various types of surveillance hotspot in various areas/services. So my opinion/suggestion is to avoid Google, so that users, contributors can post with free mind. And i think Free mind develops better things and do better discussion. -- Bry8Star (Bright Star).
Florian Staudacher Wed 21 Nov 2012 10:16AM
so, this is going into the direction of an ideological boycott rather than being out of necessity or convenience (or other actual or perceived benefits)...
Jason Robinson Wed 21 Nov 2012 10:26AM
As said before, if someone feels we should dump the Google mailing lists (for ideological reasons, no functionality is gained) - please make a proposal and we will vote :)
Personally I think we have more important things to do. And I also think the Google lists are the best for us functionally. No ones privacy is at stake since we need public lists.
Poll Created Wed 21 Nov 2012 12:57PM
Run our own mailing list to avoid Google dependancy Closed Wed 12 Dec 2012 11:51PM
Advantages to keep Google :
- Nothing to manage
- Already in place
- Good availability
- Interaction with user using a G account
Advantages to run our own mailing list :
- Privacy issue with Google (everything posted on a G service is owned by Google, they can publish a book called "all the secrets of the Diaspora project" if they want :p) (I know the mailing list is already public, but they have the possession of our discussions, it's not to us anymore.)
- No Term of Service anymore
- Really easy to deploy
- We don't depend of Google, which means they can't cut the service or say "it's not free anymore"
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 37.5% | 12 |
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| Abstain | 25.0% | 8 |
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| Disagree | 34.4% | 11 |
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| Block | 3.1% | 1 |
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| Undecided | 0% | 246 |
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32 of 278 people have participated (11%)
Flaburgan
Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:01PM
I prefer avoid Google if we can do it easily, and this is the case with the mailing list. Moreover, a lot of people didn't subscribe to the ML because of Google.
retired__-__
Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:04PM
if you can avoid google, do so. purely ideological. drawback: google will index everything anyways.
Tom Scott
Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:04PM
What problem are we trying to solve here? I'm with Christophe, lets focus on the real problems instead of trying to create new ones.
Jason Robinson
Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:05PM
Strong no. We have working Google lists that are zero maintenance and available without a Google account. Let's keep something that works instead of changing things for no reason.
noformnocontent
Wed 21 Nov 2012 1:30PM
FREEDOM!
Christophe · Sun 18 Nov 2012 3:30PM
I don't see any benefit from leaving Google Groups. I'm using it without a Google account, there's no privacy problem with public mailing lists anyway. I suggest we focus on Diaspora's issues instead of creating new problems.