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JD Jelle Debusscher Public Seen by 46

Hello,

This weekend the GA of the PPI takes place (link below) in München.
We think it's important to give attention to international coöperation and democratic assembly to further develop, uphold communication channels and broaden our scope.

So my first question is :
* Does the PPBE still wants to be a member of the PPI ?
- If no, please motivate.
- If yes, representation is in order.

So secondly:
* Does the PPBE support the nomination of a boardmember ?
- Please motivate.

https://pp-international.net/2017/11/update-final-preparations-for-ppi-general-assembly-tomorrow/

DU

Deleted account Mon 5 Nov 2018 7:38PM

Thanks!

JD

Jelle Debusscher Sun 4 Nov 2018 8:24PM

Thank you for the clarification, the funded criticism and constructive solutions. These are valid points not te enter the organisation now and they shed a new light.
It raises another question:
* Is a public communiqué - with these standpoints - to the PPI now in place? Because it's important for other parties/countries/pirates to know why we (the PPBE) don't participate and what then the exact conditions would be at a later time.

* Secondly it gives a chance to the PPI to reflect and internal restructuring. And this is necessary because they do carry our name and we can't allow structures who are inherently undemocratic in nature, to develop further under a Pirate-flag.
The platform of the Pirate Times could be used for this.
Thank you for your thoughts.

CC

Christophe Cop Mon 5 Nov 2018 8:40AM

I'm a strong advocate for keeping our international connections.
Of course PPI is about statutes, formalities &c.
And yes, PPBE is not active (It officially exists, but the Pirates in Belgium seem to be the school example of decentralised)
So, I don't think we need an immediate representative, but anybody who wishes to be one: go ahead. If someone thinks we do need to discuss things first: organise a GA or discuss it here or on a lab or whatnot.

If there are fees or obligations: can be discussed.

And if PPI wants to do things top down: there is absolutely no reason to comply if the proposed things are not reasonable.

TL;DR :
If there is someone who wishes to be a delegate: Please do!

J

Josse Mon 5 Nov 2018 8:24PM

What the Czech pirates say is quite interesting: centralized does not work, but bring experts together because just leaflets won't work.

JVO

Jan Van Opstal Sun 11 Nov 2018 11:28AM

As Christophe Cop is mentioning: Let's work on the preparation for a GA?

RVE

Renaud Van Eeckhout Mon 2 Dec 2019 9:44PM

FYI there is General Assembly of PPI on December 7th & 8th, and it happens exclusively online.

Info here => https://pp-international.net/2019/11/join-the-ppi-ga-now-all-you-need-to-know/

The agenda is here : https://ga.pp-international.net/t/proposed-agenda/155 (from what I gathered, the agenda will be finalized during the first day, it's as usual about their own Statutes, formalities etc... and the motions for the second day that could be about real content are apparently not yet available/known...).

I gave up trying to understand what they're doing but I'm just sharing the information, in case there are still pirates interested in that?

I

Ilja Mon 2 Dec 2019 10:17PM

Does anyone know what we are even doing 😬 At the very least I'm glad some people are trying to get something going internationally. We're all just figuring this out as we go anyhow

RVE

Renaud Van Eeckhout Sat 11 Jan 2020 9:54PM

Found on PPI website : https://pp-international.net/2020/01/invitation-to-the-first-meeting-of-the-pirate-parties-international-standing-committee-on-universal-liaison-on-party-labor-scull/


Invitation to the first Meeting of the Pirate Parties International Standing Committee on Universal Liaison on Party Labor (SCULL)

We like to invite you to the first meeting of PPI‘s SCULL to be conducted online, Monday Januar 20 2020 20:00 – 22:00 CET in Zoom – Meeting ID 322 832 033 Password: 082251
https://zoom.us/j/322832033?pwd=Z1JXaUVpYVkzZ0VXOE5TeVZEeVJKUT09

who should attend: International Coordinators, IT officers.

We initiate the SCULL meetings this year with the goal to foster cooperation among PPI’s members. This Standing Committee aims to extend the direct communications not only between the international coordinators of the Pirate Parties, but also among those, who is helping to run them – the IT, the Graphics and Design teams, those who handle the Membership registers, and so on. The SCULL is meant as an ongoing initiative that will touch all different areas of work of a Pirate Party, but for its first meeting we like to start with the Information Technology (IT), as this is something absolutely all of our members have, regardless of their size or maturity level. For the next meetings I have penciled in the topics of “How is a Pirate Party organized – structures, workgroups, volunteers)”, “Graphic teams and design”, “tools for democracy”.

For the first meeting of the PPI SCULL on January 20 I suggest the following agenda:

  • Introduction of Delegates

  • Introduction of the PPI’s IT infrastructure

  • Services that are provided for PPI’s Members
    (Mailing Lists, Nextcloud, Mumble, Etherpads, other… )

  • IT services from PPI Members

  • Chat Infrastructure for Pirates

  • Other topics

  • next meeting and structure for collaboration

We kindly ask the Pirate Parties to prepare to share details on their IT Best Practices and if they have IT Services that could be provided to other PPI Members.

Please contact the PPI Board if you have suggestion for the upcoming SCULL meeting agenda.

The meeting is publicly open to everybody. However, following the decision of the PPI GA from March 2015 every PPI member is entitled to one vote. Hower, we encourage you to invite as many subject matter experts as you like. The Committee Meeting will be recorded.

Please be aware, that other Standing Committees of PPI are also in the process of launching, the invites will be sent our in the coming days and weeks – we are preparing a SC for the exchange of our financial experts – on budgets, finance and fund raising, and another one on press, election campaigning, social media. We already have started with our Standing Committee on the relationship with the UN and other international bodies, that had its first Meeting in December, its next meeting will be in March.

I

Ilja Sun 12 Jan 2020 5:24PM

So this means that ppbe can attend as well?

If yes, @HgO I think we should do this and I can probably make time for this. They ask to prepare some things. I don't thing we have something explicit yet on the things they ask, but I started something on https://pad.parley.be/p/it-squad Can you see if you agree with the points I make and add where you think is relevant?

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