Should SilverStripe adopt Loomio as a tool for community decision making?
Cam Findlay
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We love open source at SilverStripe, it makes sense to adopt as many open source tools as possible to facilitate community discussion and decision making.
I would like to see something like Loomio adopted to help craft ideas about future direction of SilverStripe, features requests, community research into improvements we can make to help create the best community we can.
This initial proposal invites you to checkout Loomio, use it and discuss how and where we might best use this tool.
My thoughts are that it is not a replacement for our forums, but rather due to Loomio's interesting voting system could be something more like the Dev list (currently on a google group), or could be more usable for the wider community of SilverStripe users (both devs and CMS users) as a space to raise forward looking discussions (rather than Q&A, broken things etc).
Let's see where this goes.
Thanks all,
Cam Findlay
Community Awesomeness Manager
SilverStripe.org
Sam Minnée
Fri 18 Jul 2014 3:31AM
I'm not sure that it would work as a replacement for 100% of the discussion on the list.
I would probably start by introducing it as a way of debating how we should progress with core changes, and keep ss-dev alive.
Simon
Fri 18 Jul 2014 8:15AM
My initial impressions is that there's a lot more noise in the "discussion" than there should be to make the discussion easier to follow. The web interface isn't all that useful for it when compared to an email client either.
Mark Guinn
Fri 18 Jul 2014 9:38AM
I like this and would be happy to use it, but the list would still be helpful for discussing some things. The main this is I wouldn't want to have to check this site all the time to participate. I like the semi-passive nature of an email list.
Nicolaas
Fri 18 Jul 2014 10:38AM
great tool
Zauberfisch
Sat 19 Jul 2014 4:24AM
First impression of the tool is good, but I don't think we should fully replace the mailinglist with it just yet.
Poll Created Sat 19 Jul 2014 5:13AM
Loomio should be a supplement to silverstripe-dev Closed Thu 31 Jul 2014 11:09AM
Feel that the thoughts in the room is that the tool is good it's just missing a few features to be able to totally adopt just yet. Those being mobile and various email notification features (all of which are on the roadmap).
Rather than trying to replace silverstripe-dev entirely, we should use Loomio to vote on decisions, e.g. to do with approaches to new features / APIs / refactorings.
Results
| Results | Option | % of points | Voters | |
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Agree | 47.1% | 8 |
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| Abstain | 11.8% | 2 |
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| Disagree | 41.2% | 7 |
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| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 21 |
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17 of 38 people have participated (44%)
Nicolaas
Sat 19 Jul 2014 5:24AM
i welcome this.
Cam Findlay
Sat 19 Jul 2014 6:16AM
I agree, only caveat is that we have a clear and communicated trigger for when we bring something over from dev-list to loomio. Perhaps we a dev-list discussion starts to get differing opinions we move over here to thrash our the decision and action
James Cocker
Sat 19 Jul 2014 9:37AM
But it needs to be made very clear exactly which discussions should go where between the dev list, Loomia & UserVoice.
Simon · Fri 18 Jul 2014 8:19AM
Further to my disagreement:
That the current decision can be completely different, or a very small subset, of the overall topic is already confusing people as can be seen in this topic
Secondly, formatting is done with markdown. Markdown is not very friendly for non-tech people, which limits their ability to get their point across.