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October 1st, 2019 22:50

Tool Library Expansion

Jorån Kikke
Jorån Kikke Public Seen by 162

The tool library is growing and needs more space, right now it's kind of just subtly nudging it's borders outwards but recently this has changed to taking over new areas

Lets try and figure out something where we all have enough space, funds etc

Tom

Tom October 2nd, 2019 00:53

Hey thanks for bringing this up. The library is expanding, but we don't want to encroach on member space without consent. That said, I think there are probably opportunities to better use the available space that could benefit the library AND hackland! :) eg better use of vertical space, partitions and shelving.

Tom

Tom October 2nd, 2019 00:58

As an aside, we are really keen to build small shed, 1.5x5.5m on top of the outside area with the white rock substrate, currently home to scrap metal, not scrap metal and a kayack. This could be an ideal space for some of our bulkier items such as lawnmowers, as well as things such as bike trailers that seem to be breeding. Any thoughts on this proposal?

cstewart000

cstewart000 October 2nd, 2019 04:29

I would suggest the agreement is sought from the landlord/body corporate before building anything significant.

Tom

Tom October 2nd, 2019 06:21

Good point

Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke October 2nd, 2019 21:59

Joby has given us blanket permission to change the building, but the body corp rules do forbid permenant outside changes. So the movable big commercial bins are okay but the, uh, sign on the roller door is not okay (but yolo) Also it's worth noting that Hackland friendly landlords make up the majority of the body corp

Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke October 2nd, 2019 22:01

I think this is a great idea, how does ALoT currently sit financially? I like the idea of some of the outside space going to ALoT and some going to trash panda kitchen and general outside storage

Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke started a poll October 2nd, 2019 22:05

What's the best way for the Tool Library to expand? Closed 11:02am - Sunday 6 Oct 2019

Tool Library is getting more tools and would like to grow, how should we do this? (please add ideas, this is just general sensing not deciding yet)

6 - Setup some kind of space% * rent function
7 - Singularity
0 - Setup shared tools shelf so ALoT and Hackland don't really compete for space, but tricky to manage this maybe
3 - ALot shouldn't take up more space Hackland is already way too crowded and mess ; ;
2 - Outside shed
3 - Move some member storage upstairs so ALoT can use shelves near rope
Jorån Kikke

Jorån Kikke October 2nd, 2019 22:09

Setup some kind of space% * rent function
Setup shared tools shelf so ALoT and Hackland don't really compete for space, but tricky to manage this maybe
Outside shed
Move some member storage upstairs so ALoT can use shelves near rope

Generally in favour of ALoT growing but want to balance it with keeping Hackland good and being able to pay rent or save for a bigger space for all the citizens to thrive in

Hamish MacDonald

Hamish MacDonald October 2nd, 2019 22:13

Outside shed
Move some member storage upstairs so ALoT can use shelves near rope

Specifically how much extra space do they need?

Is another option to expand sideways toward the bathroom door and move the bandsaw and tools there... somewhere else?

The upstairs backroom seems most under utilised so makes sense to use for storage... with proper shelving setup.

Courtenay Gasking

Courtenay Gasking October 2nd, 2019 22:15

Move some member storage upstairs so ALoT can use shelves near rope

shelves near the rope could be cleaned a lot, there’s plenty of open space nearer the front and a lot of boatjunk that’s been there for years and could be trashed. given that alot is actually useful and actively used and boatjunk isn’t...

Tom

Tom started a proposal October 2nd, 2019 22:43

Tool shed and pantry where we currently store a mix of scrap metal, not scrap metal and a kayack. Closed 8:02am - Sunday 6 Oct 2019

Hey people, just seeking general feedback and thoughts on the library building a small shed with green roof atop the white gravel adjacent hackland 1. We would like to store bulkier items there, such as lawnmowers and trailers. There is currently a bunch of stuff there that doesn't seem too precious, although I don't want to assume, via of it may be part of someone's project? We would of course check in with neighbors, body corp, if necessary, but I'd like to know how members feels free this proposal first.

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Tom

Tom
Agree
October 2nd, 2019 22:45

I think this is a great idea and fully support the proposal 😅🤗

Tom

Tom October 2nd, 2019 22:46

Setup some kind of space% * rent function
Singularity
Outside shed
Move some member storage upstairs so ALoT can use shelves near rope
Hamish MacDonald

Hamish MacDonald
Agree
October 3rd, 2019 01:09

Tom

Tom October 3rd, 2019 10:41

Financially we're doing ok, covering rent as it stands and able to buy the odd tool (eg pressure washer). But I think we could be doing a lot better. I would like to brainstorm with anyone who's interested for ways to make the library more profitable/sustainable. Paying more for a bit more space, and/or organising the space we currently have better would be great... Ideally in a way that supports both the library and the makerspace.

Amanda Chapman

Amanda Chapman
Agree
October 3rd, 2019 14:05

Yeah but im biased

Amanda Chapman

Amanda Chapman October 3rd, 2019 14:07

Move some member storage upstairs so ALoT can use shelves near rope
Outside shed
Lucipher

Lucipher October 3rd, 2019 14:35

Can you confirm what the actual proposal is? The wording makes it a bit difficult to understand. Is the proposal to build a shed?

Sarah Tanfield

Sarah Tanfield October 3rd, 2019 18:15

Outside shed
Move some member storage upstairs so ALoT can use shelves near rope
Isaac Naylor

Isaac Naylor
Agree
October 4th, 2019 10:19

Isaac Naylor

Isaac Naylor October 4th, 2019 10:20

Setup shared tools shelf so ALoT and Hackland don't really compete for space, but tricky to manage this maybe
agree
Karsten Sperling

Karsten Sperling October 4th, 2019 20:07

Just a random thought re shed, maybe a 20ft container would be an option. That would mean it can be relocated if it becomes necessary at some point. Not sure how the cost compares to materials for a "normal" shed though.

R B

R B October 5th, 2019 06:08

Outside shed
Setup some kind of space% * rent function

Move Library to upstairs back room that no one uses...

Simon

Simon October 5th, 2019 19:54

Outside shed
Singularity
Setup shared tools shelf so ALoT and Hackland don't really compete for space, but tricky to manage this maybe

It’s great the ALoT are expanding, I wonder how big ALoT will get (will it ever stop expanding). It’s great that ALoT are able to use the Hackland space as well, but I don’t see that giving more room to ALoT within Hackland is sustainable for Hackland. A shed immediately outside HL could work, also a tool sharing shelf could work too.

Simon

Simon
Agree
October 5th, 2019 19:57

cstewart000

cstewart000 October 6th, 2019 20:39

All the more reason to keep informed and on side.