ECA governance infrastructure & organising

No we didn't create a deadline. I was going to send an announcement on the list with a link to this loomio thread and also to the hackpad.

Then I was going to send a separate email with asking those who have submitted meeting proposals to provide more information before Feb 28 (date, context of the event, who would be responsible for organization, how it relates to the ECA at large, and the financial status of the initiative (if funding is already secured, still needed, not necessary, etc. and how much) with a note that this isn't an application but simply a way of learning more about the proposals on the table.

Does this sound good to everyone?

It sounds good to me.
But the issue of the charter for the governance, and the one of the various meetings proposed are seperate, aren't they?
Do we link them because we think that we need the chart to make a decision on the meetings?

Yes, they are separate issues. We just discussed both during the call.

And yes, you're also right because they are linked. We'd like to make decisions on the meeting in a way that coheres with the principles.

I still think we can go ahead right now with getting more information together the different meeting options.

First of all, sorry for chiming in so late. The reason is that I was mostly offline and could only react to full text e-mail messages. So; I saw that sth. was going on but could not figure out what as I was on the road and had no access to loomio. (Btw: it's a general problem if - with the argument to reduce e-mail traffic - we shift everything to online communication. Many commoners aren't online 24/24 and the communication ends up among those who are (including me - most of the time).
So please make sure that important content is/ will also be shared via mailing list.

As for the content: great work! Thanks a lot. You'll find my comments in the hackpad. It's basically saying that we need to develop common criteria first BEFORE we "allow for" distributed decision making.

Thanks Silke (and @gaelle) for your comments. Looks like we still have some revising to do on this charter. I think a deadline is in order. I'd say in 2 weeks - so Friday March 3. I propose to:
- circulate the text on the broader list and invite people to comment between now and the upcoming Wednesday Feb 22.
- I synthesize the comments and write up an agenda of points to resolve
- I launch a Doodle for another group call to try to work out the details and finalize?

Does this make sense? Do we need another call?

I'm also curious to hear what other people think about the "criteria" point

Ok, so! First, I propose a second call on this next week. DOODLE HERE: https://framadate.org/JwSL8sZDOSWgNnYm

I have re-worked the text on the pad, but left most comments so it is clear what the logic was. I think it is an improvement but we still have some things to work out: https://europeancommonsassembly.hackpad.com/Governance-charter-Working-document-ECA-9UjjdfTiWV0

There is still a major point to resolve which is the criteria for decision-making that Silke suggesting.

Please comment with ideas for these criteria (or other adjustments to the text) ASAP. I am also sending an email to those that have been involved in this conversation so far and/or expressed interest so we don't miss this message.

Hello ECA,

I’d like to give an update from the ECA Governance and Organizing group which has held a couple calls over the past few weeks. Here’s where we are:

1. We feel we need to enlarge the group itself in order to be more representative of the ECA as a whole. It would be great to have more participation from those that are interested and have the time to work more regularly on questions of organizing the assembly. To that end, I offer a framadate (doodle) here to find a time for the next call: https://framadate.org/9XmAQnbL7YgqLspp

2. We have gone through a process of writing down our Working Principles in the form of a charter. Version 1 will be sent soon to the list in a separate email.

3. We have informally discussed a number of proposals for future “ECA Moments” and will continue to do so. I’ll also share these on the list in a separate email along with an invitation to share other proposals that we might not be aware of yet.

4. Funding - A budget has been approved for me to continue as a coordinator until November with the goal of facilitating communication and helping the various groups get up and running. Beyond that, we will continue to discuss and strategize how we can secure and organize future funding for the ECA and would like to open up this conversation.

So, please keep an eye out for the next emails on proposals and the charter and respond to the framadate above if you’d like to get more involved in the Governance and Organizing group. You should also review and join this thread on loomio: https://www.loomio.org/d/kodMYJE5/eca-governance-infrastructure-organising

Thank you and as usual don’t hesitate with questions,
Nicole

Hi everybody, I am sorry I missed the call and will also miss the next one, we 're having the Intermapping meeting in Florence, a follow up of the Commons Space in Montreal :-) and the fringe meeting in Brussels.
Two short remarks:
about the "no hierarchy" thing, have a read: https://medium.com/ouishare-connecting-the-collaborative-economy/cut-the-bullshit-organizations-with-no-hierarchy-dont-exist-f0a845e73a80#.r7xe3viqh

and about the idea not to put "general values", but focus on principles of working together, i.e. describing more precisely HOW we should interact. I've just published this in the mapping context: https://discourse.transformap.co/t/mapping-for-the-commons-manifesto/1285
These are no general governance principles of course, but the text points to the level of clarity and concreteness we'd need.

Happy to contribute on the pad, thanks for opening it @nicoleleonard

I would be happy join next time, especially if I can be of concrete help.

Hello all, I'm on skype. How should we connect? Ivor