A prosperous country for who? Housing in New Zealand
From 'State Housing' to 'Affordable Housing' for first time buyers - what should be done?
Open Discussion, lets start the debate!
Marc Whinery Sun 15 Feb 2015 4:05AM
@tane I understand and agree. The use was ironic. The 1% would consider the bottom 80% losers, but obviously they aren't, as that's where most people are. They aren't "losers", they are "average", and there's a problem with the system if 80% are "losers".
Esther Cook Fri 27 Feb 2015 7:06PM
Sad ..bye
Poll Created Fri 27 Feb 2015 7:59PM
Hapu Lead Communal Living Villages Closed Mon 2 Mar 2015 7:07PM
We all know that a shift towards fully sustainable living is the eventual end-game for earth if we hope to conquer the mess we have made of the planet and the reliance on capitalist society.......It can only ever be achieved by a gradual shift this way and Maori are actually placed well to lead this shift if its something they want.
As a means of restoring the cultural component Maori lost when they moved away from this type of communal society as well as creating an alternative and a catchment for the areas of social welfare that have historically failed - I truly believe that if given support Hapu can be empowered to create villages like this...Not just for Maori but for anyone willing to contribute to the community.
I'm thinking ares of land which surround historical sites and Marae being turned into plots with agriculture which firstly satisfies the community in terms food and resources but also the environment...Ie commitment to reforestation, Whanau driven support networks and education.
We cannot rely on the petrodollar forever, we have the number of homeless people exponentially growing, we have disenfranchised unemployed folk out there who could do with some wholesome lifestyle choices that a community of this type would promote.
As long as the religious component was excluded and everything was based around the concepts of mother earth...Papatuanuku, Tangaroa etc etc then it could be a fantastic method of revitalising the lower socio-economic part of society.
Obviously the downside would be that it inherantly discourages employment within the economic state....but....who cares? Whats important.
I believe this would be a great way of suring up things like conservation, fisheries and working together.
I think that a concept like this supercedes the concepts surrounding the treaty of Waitangi and in fact could possibly address many of the social problems treaty settlement 'claims' to address.
Itd also be a fantastic way of helping EVERYONE understand the spirit in which this country was -actually- founded upon....Which was a working relationship between Pakeha and Maori to work the land together as one.
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Agree | 100.0% | 5 |
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| Abstain | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Disagree | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Block | 0.0% | 0 | ||
| Undecided | 0% | 624 |
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Alan Bainbridge
Fri 27 Feb 2015 9:22PM
Wholeheartedly agree. First nations all over the world knew that they were part of nature, not the boss of it. While some of this knowledge has been buried quite deeply by the rhetoric of capitalism, it is not lost completely. Good proposal.
pilotfever
Fri 27 Feb 2015 10:18PM
As per discussion.
Nicholas Adamson
Sun 1 Mar 2015 8:22PM
Agree in principal
Sam Gribben
Mon 2 Mar 2015 10:06AM
Absolutely has to happen, and of course it already sort of does in some communities. I think the government supporting Iwi and Hapu to set up more community initiatives is an absolute must.
pilotfever Fri 27 Feb 2015 10:18PM
Yes, UBI could also support such initiatives. Officially the hippy movement died in the 1960's but survived in Northland into the 80's. I think we have a lot to offer the rest of the planet with regards such sustainable arrangements and absolutely agree it is not limited to Maori. Ultimately, the rangitira need to recognise that value is being stolen from New Zealand in terms of its innovation economy, this value once restored will also enable such initiatives.
Fred Look Fri 27 Feb 2015 10:32PM
Somehow in the morass of permits and process a fundemental right to house ourselves is lost. IP policy needs to consider protecting and reinstating this right as it makes policy in this area.
Maelwryth · Sat 14 Feb 2015 10:01PM
@marcwhinery I like the above comment, but feel that you have left out the other group who's lives don't revolve around winning the game because the game means nothing to them.
Also, calling people."those losers" is foolish. The difference between them and you is a bank mistake, a new law, or just society deciding that your culture suddenly isn't the culture du jour. They may be winners in ways that you are currently not able to understand but are far more real than money.