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Thu 18 Jan 2018

Readings Selection

MC Matthew Cropp Public Seen by 443

A thread to coordinate the selection of readings!

MC

Poll Created Thu 18 Jan 2018

Add at least one reading suggestion to the spreadsheet Closed Wed 24 Jan 2018

Please check 'yes' when you've added at least one book to the spreadsheet! Once we have the initial list, we'll initiate the first readings selection process...

Link to the spreadsheet

Results

Results Option % of voters Voters
Yes 50% 5 MC MN MK EM GSF
No 0% 0  
Undecided 50% 5 LS MDB A JT M

5 of 10 people have voted (50%)

EM

Erik Moeller Mon 29 Jan 2018

Okay, I think we're almost ready to get started. I've added a random book selector to the spreadsheet, here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZvZ_MLq1dAVBCY7-e9Iylg-qxWYqkcptjvOnkyOTeTA/edit#gid=570362544

Feel free to tweak it. If that works for folks, in the next few days, I'll run it to generate options for a poll. So please get your suggestions into the "Proposed Books" section now if you haven't already :-)

MC

Matthew Cropp Mon 29 Jan 2018

Coooooooool! I had no idea you could do that in a spreadsheet! Since the check poll has closed, I would say go ahead with the poll ASAP! Please include a link to the spreadsheet on the poll and highlight the selected books so people can find the relevant ones easily. I dehighlight and rehighlight each month for my hackerspace club...

MK

Michele Kipiel Mon 29 Jan 2018

Cool stuff! How do we pick the "finalists" though? They all are very interesting :)

EM

Erik Moeller Tue 30 Jan 2018

I've used the RNG to pick five books from the spreadsheet, and I suggest we each pick our top 3 among those (I narrowed it to 3 so we have to make an additional tradeoff choice beyond the ranking, but I figure we'll iterate on the voting process as we go).

This is my first Lomio vote so please let me know if I messed anything up :)

EM

Poll Created Tue 30 Jan 2018

What should be the first book for the reading group? Closed Sun 4 Feb 2018

These proposals were randomly chosen from the suggestions spreadsheet. See the spreadsheet for details about each book:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZvZ_MLq1dAVBCY7-e9Iylg-qxWYqkcptjvOnkyOTeTA/edit#gid=0

Results

Results Option Rank % of points Points Mean
Derek Wall: Elinor Ostrom's Rules for Radicals. Cooperative Alternatives beyond Markets and States (2017) 1 30.0% 18 2.3
E.G.Nadeau & Luc Nadeau: The Cooperative Society (2016) 2 25.0% 15 1.9
Michael Lewis & Patrick Conaty: The Resilience Imperative: Cooperative Transitions to a Steady-State Economy (2012) 3 21.7% 13 1.6
Ajamu Nangwaya & Kali Akuno: Jackson Rising: The Struggle for Economic Democracy and Black Self-Determination in Jackson, Mississippi (2017) 4 16.7% 10 2.5
Michael Braungart & William McDonough: Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make Things 5 6.7% 4 2.0
Undecided 0% 0 0

10 of 22 people have voted (45%)

MN

Matt Noyes Tue 30 Jan 2018

Great -- thanks for doing this!

-Matt

EM

Erik Moeller Sat 3 Feb 2018

Just a reminder that the poll closes tomorrow so if you haven't already, please get your votes in - thanks :)

N

Poll Created Mon 12 Mar 2018

Reading Selection: 2nd Book Closed Sun 18 Mar 2018

A random selection of books from the shared spreadsheet. Please select your top 3 to determine which one we'll read for our second reading group selection.

You can find more details about each book in the spreadsheet (this months candidates are highlighted in yellow): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZvZ_MLq1dAVBCY7-e9Iylg-qxWYqkcptjvOnkyOTeTA/edit#gid=0

Results

Results Option Rank % of points Points Mean
Ajamu Nangwaya, Kali Akuno: Jackson Rising: The Struggle for Economic Democracy and Black Self-Determination in Jackson, Mississippi 1 31.7% 19 2.7
E.G.Nadeau & Luc Nadeau: The Cooperative Society 2 23.3% 14 1.6
George Cheney: Values at Work Employee Participation Meets Market Pressure at Mondragon 3 16.7% 10 2.0
Jess Gilbert: Planning Democracy 4 15.0% 9 1.8
Jaroslav Vanek: Self Management: Economic Liberation of Man 5 13.3% 8 2.0
Undecided 0% 0 0

10 of 32 people have voted (31%)

MN

Poll Created Sun 22 Apr 2018

Reading Selection 3rd Book Closed Sun 29 Apr 2018

Outcome
by Matt Noyes Mon 30 Apr 2018

The good news is we have chosen our next reading: Ours to Hack and to Own: The Rise of Platform Cooperativism.
The bad news is I was the person who put that on the list, meaning that I am facilitating twice in a row -- if anyone would rather facilitate this one, feel free. ;-)

Rank your choices.

Results

Results Option Rank % of points Points Mean
Values at Work Employee Participation Meets Market Pressure at Mondragon 1 19.7% 13 2.6
Ours to Hack and to Own: The Rise of Platform Cooperativism. A New Vision for the Future Of Work and a Fairer Internet. 2 19.7% 13 2.2
Revolution in Rojava: Democratic Autonomy and Women's Liberation in the Syrian Kurdistan 3 18.2% 12 2.0
The Resilience Imperative: Cooperative Transitions to a Steady-State Economy 4 15.2% 10 1.7
Platform Capitalism 5 9.1% 6 2.0
Deep Economy: The Wealth of Communities and the Durable Future 6 9.1% 6 2.0
The Conquest of Bread 7 6.1% 4 2.0
Cradle to Cradle: Remaking the Way We Make Things 8 3.0% 2 1.0
Undecided 0% 0 0

11 of 37 people have voted (29%)

MC

Poll Created Tue 1 May 2018

Add a book to the reading list! Closed Tue 8 May 2018

Let's keep building the reading list! Check 'yes' on this poll if you've added at least one new book to the readings spreadsheet

Results

Results Option % of voters Voters
Yes 11% 4 MC MK CW ED
No 3% 1 MAS
Undecided 86% 32 TB JD MN ÅM LS TB R MDB FD EM MY CI A LO CCE QW JH JT IW M GSF D DU JJ MA CC A C ES NRV AFD KH

5 of 37 people have voted (13%)

MAS

Michel Alexandre Salim
No
Mon 7 May 2018

I feel like I am not familiar enough with the field to suggest books yet, but looking forward to read the next book selection

MK

Michele Kipiel Sun 8 Jul 2018

Hi all,

sorry for letting the past week fly by without any updates. I am now selecting the books using https://www.random.org/ to randomly select the 8 books that will be put to the votes. Poll coming soon! :)

M

mike_hales Sun 8 Jul 2018

@michelekipiel Could you add this book to the master list, out of which you do random selections:
- Capra & Mattei (2015), The ecology of law - Toward a legal system in tune with nature and community, Berrett-Koehler.

Toward a law framework for post-capitalism.

ED

emi do Sun 8 Jul 2018

Hi @mikeh8 , the reading selection spreadsheet can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZvZ_MLq1dAVBCY7-e9Iylg-qxWYqkcptjvOnkyOTeTA/edit?usp=sharing.

There are also descriptions for the books there as well which helps with selection.

M

mike_hales Sun 8 Jul 2018

Thanks Emi. I did discover the spreadsheet after I’d posted my query. Unfortunately, I don’t use resources that require a Google ID.

MK

Michele Kipiel Mon 9 Jul 2018

Hi @mikeh8, I added that book personally as soon as the list was created :) Such a great read!

MN

Matt Noyes Mon 9 Jul 2018

If there are no objections, I can convert the spreadsheet to an Ethercalc document...

MK

Michele Kipiel Tue 10 Jul 2018

Works for me, let's wait for some more feedback though :)

MK

Poll Created Sun 8 Jul 2018

Reading selection - Fourth book Closed Sun 15 Jul 2018

Outcome
by Michele Kipiel Mon 16 Jul 2018

And the winner is... "Values at Work Employee Participation Meets Market Pressure at Mondragon" by G. Cheney!

Let the reading begin :)

As usual, I I will set up a poll in the coming days to pick a date for the discussion call next month.

Let's choose the next book we want to read!

The book descriptions can be found on this spreadsheet.

Results

Results Option Rank % of points Points Mean
The Cooperative Society - E.G. Nadeau & L. Nadeau 1 19.0% 41 6.8
Values at Work Employee Participation Meets Market Pressure at Mondragon - G. Cheney 2 19.0% 41 6.8
Capital as Power: A Study of Order and Creorder - J. Nitzan & S. Bichler 3 13.9% 30 5.0
We the People: Connecting to a Deeper Democracy - J. Buck Jr & S. Villines 4 13.0% 28 4.7
Self Management: Economic Liberation of Man - J. Vanek 5 10.2% 22 3.7
Property and Contract in Economics: The Case for Economic Democracy - D. Ellerman 6 9.3% 20 3.3
Rules for Radicals: A Progmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals - S. Alinsky 7 8.8% 19 3.2
The Conquest of Bread - P. Kropotkin 8 6.9% 15 2.5
Undecided 0% 0 0

6 of 41 people have voted (14%)

M

mike_hales Sun 8 Jul 2018

@michelekipiel I'd much rather be doing a dot-vote on this, since there are only one or two books I'm keen to read. Sorting eight into a hierarchy is more work than I feel like giving to the remainder. And might seem to support them.

MC

Matthew Cropp Sun 8 Jul 2018

Dot voting on this type of decision doesn't work well (tried it in a different reading group, and we decided ranked choice works better), but what I prefer is to have it set to only rank the top four of the eight. The flow of the approved decision making process is in the description of the sub-group for reference.

Also, @michelekipiel, I'm going to edit the description of the poll to embed the link to the spreadsheet so folks can easily access the book descriptions.

MK

Michele Kipiel Mon 9 Jul 2018

Thanks!

MC

Matthew Cropp Mon 16 Jul 2018

Really excited to read this one! @mattnoyes selections seem to be good ones... ;)

MN

Matt Noyes Mon 16 Jul 2018

You're too kind. Actually, this time I am confident we can set up a follow-up chat with George Cheney.

CW

The original publication date is 1999. The Updated Edition is 2002. My library system has the original. Amazon.com sells the Updated Edition for $25. I wonder what’s in the update.

DU

[deactivated account] Mon 6 Aug 2018

I just requested this via inter-library loan, so if it arrives in time to read, I'll be excited to join the discussion.