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More social media engagements - looking for volunteers

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Pirate Praveen Public Seen by 368

With Cambridge Analytica in the limelight, I think we need to respond to it via articles, posters, videos etc It would be good to continue this responding to public mood or even initiating campaigns to bring awareness to the issues of privacy, freedom etc

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Pirate Praveen started a check Mon 2 Apr 2018

Who wants to join the Social Media team? Closed Mon 16 Apr 2018

Outcome
by Pirate Praveen Tue 17 Apr 2018

we have 6 volunteers to move forward with this team

You will need to help manage the social media presence (Diaspora, Mastodon etc), integrating the diaspora updates with website etc. Initiate draft statements, collect feedback etc on relevant issues.

6 - Yes
0 - No
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Pirate Praveen
Yes
Mon 2 Apr 2018

I think we need to engage more with the public.

JI

Jackson Isaac
Yes
Mon 2 Apr 2018

I agree that there is a lack of importance among public when it comes to privacy. This is changing slowly though, we should engage more and make public educated more about privacy related issues.

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Murali
Yes
Mon 2 Apr 2018

yes...this is the right time we can do some discussions and awareness of how our privacy is important not only for us (as an individual) but also for a nation.

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Murali
Yes
Mon 2 Apr 2018

yes...this is the right time we can do some discussions and awareness of how our personal data becomes oil to big corporates.

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Kannan V M
Yes
Mon 2 Apr 2018

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Jagadees Mon 2 Apr 2018

Yes. correct. this is the right time.
Still lot of progressive celebrities are using facebook. Tehy dont know what they are doing.
We have to do something.

I already published lot of news regarding CA and facebook on my site.
https://neritam.com/?cat=23572

A lot scheduled to be published.
articles about facebook also available in https://neritam.com/?cat=71864648

articles for diaspora also there.
ഫേസ്ബുക്കിന് ഒരു ബദല്‍ വേണ്ടേ?
http://neritam.com/2016/02/25/facebook-alternative/
മുഖ്യമന്ത്രിയുടെ ഓഫീസ് ഫേസ്‌ബുക്ക് ഉപയോഗിക്കരുത്
http://neritam.com/2016/07/02/cmo-stop-facebook/

For English version of these are in https://aneritamtm.wordpress.com/

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Jagadees
Yes
Mon 2 Apr 2018

i have one in neritam @ diasp.in

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Jagadees
Yes
Mon 2 Apr 2018

i have one in diasp.in
its not about privacy. its about new privatized colonialism.

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Tanzeem Mohammad Basheer
Yes
Tue 3 Apr 2018

I would like to collaborate in coding, and other related activities in the Social Media Team- Tanzeem (@ignujee:matrix.org)

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Abhijith B Wed 18 Apr 2018

We must have a better presence on mass media. Can we do a large scale advertising campaign on Newspapers and Channels ? We must target magazines too. These ads/articles/other content must come under general section; never under technology section.

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Pirate Praveen Thu 19 Apr 2018

I think the cost benefit ratio would be too less. Even when people who understand this issue is reluctant to move from facebook, I doubt the effectiveness of a mass media campaign. But there is no harm in trying if you feel it is worthwhile.

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Rojin Fri 20 Apr 2018

tl;dr; In summary, Diaspora needs a target audience and better branding.

Hi,
It seems to me like any social media or app is like an epidemic. There are places were we can induce it and spread it naturally. Like Facebook did, colleges. If we can see the market in groups of users, we see college goers, parents, businesses, activists, media etc. College goers or kids seem to be the easiest for obvious reasons. Since we have an advantage of knowing what the target audience wants like sharing assignments, temp projects/activity groups and photos, we can design the media to suit the purposes.
Also, branding of this product needs to be done for attracting new users, like "People's own media", "The way it's supposed to be". Something that does not seem as needy as Hike.
I don't know on what basis can public and private offices can be made an offer to use Diaspora, but that'll leave a mark.
Also, It'll be great if the user can integrate FB user data(the download user data thing) into the diaspora when starting up.

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Pirate Praveen Fri 20 Apr 2018

The problem with that approach is, they might come to diaspora, but will easily go back to another one when that is the craze. But if we succeed in convincing, even a small number of people about importance of privacy, that will be a sustainable change. So I prefer slow growth where people appreciate the real benefits rather than convinced by marketing efforts.

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Jagadees Fri 20 Apr 2018

never ask anybody to close facebook acc. it will fireback.
The problem is that people's life is based on facebook. we cannot ask them to change and its not our job to create a life outside facebook so that they can migrate.
our job is to publicize politics of the this issue.
but sad thing is that we dont have a platform for it. not even a mailing group which accept such information without OT scolding.
So our first priority is building our community which cares about "politics of technology".

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Rojin Fri 20 Apr 2018

I seem to have taken a wrong perspective earlier, it seem to be more clear now. The aim to make the works and effect of the large internet companies clear and to give the people a choice. So the content created would be educational.

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Pirate Praveen Sat 21 Apr 2018

Well, we can't always say only what people like to hear. I don't expect most people to delete Facebook immediately after we ask. If freedom and privacy requires deleting Facebook, we should definitely ask for it. This issue requires action from people and we should not shy away from asking them to take this action just because they may not like it. Without a call to action, and in this case we can do it at grass root level, we have the replacement technology and platform, only social acceptance is required, it will appear like career politicians giving hollow speeches. As for community, we can use this loomio group, mailing list is just a tool.

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Pirate Praveen Sat 21 Apr 2018

Educate about the problems, better options for them and encourage them to join and take action.

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Pirate Praveen Sat 21 Apr 2018

An excellent interview of Richard Stallman http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/04/richard-stallman-rms-on-privacy-data-and-free-software.html Would you like RMS to say things only people like to hear? If you look back in history, change happened because a minority questioned the mainstream ideas of that time, be it about slavery or untouchability. Similarly using Facebook may be a mainstream idea, but that should not stop us from talking the truth, that its is dangerous for our privacy, freedoms and democracy.

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Murali Sat 21 Apr 2018

Educate people is the only way.

For that we have to develop modules to full fill the importance of our vision & mission.

Also how we can achieve it through currently available tools & technology.

Like:

  1. For group discussions Loomio

  2. For email and other things disroot

  3. Social network Diaspora

...

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Rojin Sat 21 Apr 2018

Why can't we move towards making better legislation directly?

Side talk:
Also found this, test on google ads shows how the mic is always listening https://youtu.be/zBnDWSvaQ1

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Pirate Praveen Sat 21 Apr 2018

Because we don't have the power to make laws. The people in power has different priorities, often conflicting with ours. Aadhaar is a good example. They want surveillance and control. If you are interested in political route, some of us are part of http://pirates.org.in

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Pirate Praveen Sat 21 Apr 2018

loomio, discourse and mailman are available for groups. disroot.org, autistici.org and riseup.net for email.

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Jagadees Sat 21 Apr 2018

i am talking. 42 posts on fb: https://neritam.com/?cat=71864648
14 posts on ca: https://neritam.com/?cat=23572
136 posts on aadhaar: https://neritam.com/?cat=309708887
use it.

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Jagadees Sat 21 Apr 2018

slavery or untouchability etc. these issues are visible. nobody need to explain the issue to people. but with neoliberalism the rulers found that its even more easier to enslave people without people knowing it. here people cant see the chain. its hard to explain things. they have to learn it like a spark. for that we need strategies.
we must have to build an active community on these issues. not just for specific events. but a regular group focused on the core of the issues.

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Pirate Praveen Sun 22 Apr 2018

Visibility helps to an extend, but was that enough to get rid of it? Many people accepted and strongly supported it even though it was visible. People had consciously build a movement and it was still very difficult even though it was visible, because the consequences of revolt was very serious. And now, in a way, it is easier for us too, since the consequences of a revolt are not as serious. But yes, it is much harder to convince, I agree. In addition, we have a extra problem of people being disappointed and lazy even if they understand the problem. The goal of FSCI is to be that group. Change from FOSS Community India to Free Software Community of India signifies more focus on philosophy.

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Pirate Praveen Sun 22 Apr 2018

That could be useful, but we need materials of all sizes, from stickers to, banners to posters, to short articles to longer articles.

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Jagadees Mon 23 Apr 2018

thats a very good move.

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Abhijith B Sun 29 Apr 2018

Great video for promoting Mastodon - https://youtu.be/IPSbNdBmWKE