Loomio en Español
Noelia
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An idea has been brewing in my head for a wee while now about "Loomio en Español".
I believe it will be an important contribution for Spanish speaking communities worldwide and a good stepping stone to incorporating other languages and diversifying Loomio's global reach later down the track.
Loomio is a great tool to include all individuals and encourage them to take more responsibility in decision making. I think it is important to try and tackle language barrier sooner rather than later.
I have been talking to a few of you and am aware of a few very important points you have raised:
1) Aaron explained that before any translations take place the English templates need to be moved to another space to enable Loomio in other languages. I am happy to help Aaron action this, and he has agreed to teach me - John has also said he could be a support person if I need his help.
2) Alanna was concerned about the language, I am happy to sit down with a few of you to talk about the wording you've chosen to explain the concept of Loomio and why, and understand in more detail.
3) What will happen afterwards? I am keen to be a connection with the Spanish speaking world and Loomio :)
Alanna Irving Wed 13 Mar 2013 10:34PM
Maybe @noelia could get in contact with the people who are interested in helping, and coordinate working together? Since she's located here in our office it will facilitate communication with the rest of the team.
Noelia Wed 13 Mar 2013 10:51PM
Yes! I will be in touch if I need help once I finished step 1, thank you all for wonderful support! :) @franciscogeorgeppes @yago @Stacco @sophiejerram @dennislindner
Benjamin Knight Wed 13 Mar 2013 11:06PM
I heard a pleasant rumour that our good friend @richardfortune has experience with software localisation!
Richard, any advice about early stage strategies for localisation would be super helpful!
Francisco George PP-ES Wed 13 Mar 2013 11:18PM
Nice to see @yago from EQUO in the team!
Richard Fortune Wed 13 Mar 2013 11:20PM
Happy to talk through the principles although I'm probably out of touch with the tools available nowadays. I think we may have had another discussion on Yammer about this before. Tools that can localise on the fly.
Before you can even begin localising you need to do a globalisation phase - ensuring your product is localisable, separating out assets, handling timezones or any regional elements used in the UI.
Given you guys are an opensource project I'm betting you would prefer to crowd source the localisation, which means you'll need a way of getting those assets pushed back into app. I'd see what github has to offer with regards to localisation. Handling updates like you would code commits could be the nicest way to go. Also means you don't have to "take" all commits and aren't in a constant state of policing like Wikipedia is.
Would also be keen to get an idea of any "big data" plan you guys might want to support, as that raises a totally different issue outside of pure linguistics.
Richard D. Bartlett Thu 14 Mar 2013 2:18AM
Thanks so much for kicking this off @noelia, super exciting.
We were talking yesterday about to achieve a really high-quality translation that captures the nuanced meanings of the key words in the app.
One suggestion was that we could create a full list of all the phrases in the app, and write down an explanation for the rationale behind each choice. Then we could translate the explanation as well as the key phrases, to make sure each translation is faithful copy.
Another thing we'll have to think about is how to handle support requests in the different languages. Perhaps there could be a Loomio group for each supported language, where people can get together and ask and answer each others' questions.
Jon Lemmon Thu 14 Mar 2013 10:50AM
Indeed, thanks @noelia! I'm very excited about this. =) I love the initiative you've taken with the plan you've outlined above. I'm looking forward to working with you (and hopefully one of our tech interns) on this. We should arrange a time to chat!
Aaron Thornton Fri 15 Mar 2013 10:23PM
@noelia I keen to meet on Monday to look at strategies and starting points for this work. We have a meeting at 11.30am so sometime before that would suit? @jonlemmon
Noelia Fri 15 Mar 2013 10:30PM
yes! I'll be at the office at 9:00 AM @jonlemmon @johnirving @richarddbartlett
Benjamin Knight · Wed 13 Mar 2013 6:45PM
Welcome @yago and @franciscogeorgeppes! Great to see new faces in here :)