Loomio
Thu 7 Jan 2016 7:58PM

build to break

JJ jan janssens Public Seen by 315

So this is the short version of the story. I bought a television 3 years ago, flat screen and stuff, it cost me 499 euro. The damn thing broke. I went back to the shop were I bought it and they said (suprise suprise) that it couldn't be fixed and that the warrenty (2 years in belguim) is over so they couldn't send it back to the factory. Only thing for me left to do was to buy a new one.

Bad luck? Possibly. But doubtfull. I think you have all seen the documentary build to break and others like it, this is just crap and should be handled.

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Poll Created Sat 5 Mar 2016 1:16PM

I endorse "build to break" for the drafting zone. Closed Thu 10 Mar 2016 1:07PM

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 75.0% 3 V H PS
Abstain 25.0% 1 VD
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 46 PI RC KDV SR RVE SD Z CC TVO PD DR PB JVO AI AB TF BG J JJ WF

4 of 50 people have participated (8%)

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HgO
Agree
Sat 5 Mar 2016 7:23PM

I thought we were already in the drafting zone, my bad ^

PS

Pat Seynaeve
Agree
Wed 9 Mar 2016 1:44PM

What's the drafting zone?
If it means we have to do something against this mentality that profits allows to waste raw materials and energy to produce cheap products that are dumped after minimum time, Yes

VD

Valerie D.
Abstain
Wed 9 Mar 2016 9:55PM

I am interested but willing to discuss it at the GA, not convinced that's the spot yet. Rather a lab first.

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Vincent Sat 5 Mar 2016 1:17PM

I guess it' time to frame the debate and build something out of it.

JJ

jan janssens Sat 5 Mar 2016 3:23PM

Nice. Also when companies get longer warrenty they will stop changing models so quickly.

JJ

jan janssens Sat 5 Mar 2016 3:24PM

I hope

JVO

Jan Van Opstal Sun 6 Mar 2016 12:31PM

"I prefer face to face, because I'am lazy at typing, and I could link this to alot of other stuff. What do you guys/girls think?" the topic states....

starting a discussion on a 5 years warranty (legislation-proposal) concept? How far is this gone take us?

PD

Pascal Dk Sun 6 Mar 2016 2:55PM

That can be an idea. I like it because it's a practical case.

Here some proposals :

  • case study : what does such warranty provides/involves (let's take an easy one)
  • workshop 1 : how to make it better
  • workshop 2 : trying to create our own public licence (such as the WTFPL we had once, but better)
  • having a presentation from a legal specialist would be highly interesting also
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Vincent Wed 9 Mar 2016 3:34PM

Pat, you've actually accepted to work on the proposal to present it to the GA.
It's still a good thing :)

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