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Wed 30 Apr 2014 11:54AM

Planning the may issue

EB Edward Bauer Public Seen by 9

Hey all designers I have gone over the word count and I think this will roughly fit in the paper for the 12 pages. I have taken the standard News, Comment, Culture & Sport model for the order. What do people think of the arrangement?

Kellys says she would like to work on the poster cover I am going to work on the rest of the pages. I don't know what Sean you are able or want to be doing? I will call you.

For how we should do this - I am away this Sat & Sunday. So I think I should go to try and have the first draft done by Friday. I will post it up for thoughts and edits and then when I come back I will make the final version monday. However if Sean or someone else is are around this weekend you can take over working on it this weekend.

If we have serious disagreements over the weekend we will have an emergency Design working group meeting Monday 6pm at which we will finalise it . To send in Tuesday.

Edd

Page 1 A really cool Poster Cover
Page 2 Local Elections coverage
Page 3 Advert Full page
Page 4 don't vote & Underfunded safeguarding services leaves unidentified children at risk
page 5 Crisis payments underspent in Birmingham & Undemocratic minster for the midllands
page 6 Advert full page
page 7 ATOS & Green Homes
page 8 Trojan horse or silencing of dissent, what next? & Editoral (Dorter)
page 9 UKIP & Calling all women
Page 10 Shout Film Fest & John Lennon & ¼ page CATC advert
page 11 half page Coop advert & three penny opera
Page 12 F1: the Season so far

D

Dorter Thu 1 May 2014 9:43PM

Hey folks. thanks for putting all this work into the design and layout.

I'm not in the design group so also not voting, but I just wanted to say, really quickly that i wonder if we can move the ad from the 3rd page to somewhere further back (like the 9th, if it's for reasons of colour or whatever. No good to have an ad on the 3rd page.

Also, the back page is really important. Must be a better piece to put than the F1 piece which is not local, has me rebutting it, and was accepted more for tokenism, i think. Particularly since the front page is an image, the back page should be a strong article, i think - or perhaps the three-penny opera review?

EB

Edward Bauer Fri 2 May 2014 1:40AM

So a rejigg to take into account @dorter ideas and some uploads of files Kelly has very nearly finished 10&11 and will be uploaded tonight. Please get in thoughts and comments.

@daniellindley would you like do to your look over and edit of the pages i have attached the svgs.

Page 1 A really Cool Poster Cover
Page 2 Local Elections coverage
Page 3 Local Elections coverage & don't vote
Page 4 Underfunded safeguarding services leaves unidentified children at risk & Crisis payments underspent in Birmingham (+bit of space left currently)
page 5 Tower of Song Advert full page
page 6 Mosely Folk Fest Full page
page 7 ATOS & Coop Advertorial
page 8 Trojan horse or silencing of dissent, what next?, Editoral (Dorter), Green Homes
page 9 UKIP, & Calling all women, F1: the Season so far
Page 10 Shout Film Fest & John Lennon

page 11 three penny opera
Page 12 Democratic Minster for Midlands

KR

Kelly Rogers Fri 2 May 2014 2:13AM

Hey I didn't get as much done as I had hoped. Here is the first culture page done. page 2 isn't finished because I spent ages on the infographic.

If anyone has any ideas for a picture I could make for Lindsey's article it'd be great -- I had a great time dressing up naked John Lennon in a skirt and naked Yoko Ono at batman, but then I felt weird because I was ruining their cool naked picture. So now I don't know what to do...

L

Lindsey Fri 2 May 2014 7:05AM

The info graphics are amazing! Top work!

For my review, any pic of the beetles with skirts stuck on/random female accessories/hair would work, though if it's simpler and saves time could you use their show poster?

D

Dorter Fri 2 May 2014 9:31AM

looking really good!

D

Dorter Fri 2 May 2014 9:36AM

@kellyrogers , if it's helpful and not too late, more recent figures for the murder of trans people over 60 countries from 2008-now is 1364.

http://www.transrespect-transphobia.org/en_US/tvt-project/tmm-results/tdor-2013.htm

DU

Deleted User Fri 2 May 2014 12:01PM

There are some errors in the files I've looked at including in the graphics (e.g. it says a 'minster' for the Midlands when it it should say minister). If I can come to wherever you're meeting on Saturday I'd like to fix stuff with people there.

D

Dorter Fri 2 May 2014 12:03PM

i certainly expected that there will be a process of at least double-proof-read of the final layout?

KR

Kelly Rogers Tue 6 May 2014 1:50PM

@daniellindley you can edit svgs right? It would be much more helpful if you could just make any grammatical changes you can.

In terms of the front page. I'm really sorry everyone, but I just don't have the time to make loads of changes now. We've still got lots of designing to do for the other pages, and I hope that people agree that its at least good enough to go to print, if not completely matching what people think it could be.

I'm really sorry that we were away over the weekend, but while there are only three or so of us who can use the programmes properly, we might end up having this problem sometimes.

At some point we should really make it a priority to train as many people up as possible on using image manipulation programmes. At the very least, even if people don't want to design stuff it can make all the corrections a lot quicker and easier, rather than sending it back to only a couple of people.

L

Lindsey Tue 6 May 2014 2:25PM

Hi Kelly, thanks for doing everything you could (and doing boatloads of work in general) - you're totally right that more people need training on how to use the programs and the burden shouldn't fall to such a small group.
Also, to our shame, when deciding whether to do 8 or 12 pages in the board meeting it never once came up that 50% more content would mean 50% more design work. This oversight has of course blown the time budget, but at least now it's something we know and can plan for next issue.

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