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Thu 22 Aug 2013 10:03PM

Login with Mozilla Persona

RJ Raphaël Jadot Public Seen by 83

Hi,

this is my first contribution to this workgroup, so excuse me if I start it wrongly :)

https://login.persona.org/about and http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/

Mozilla Persona is imho the SSO to support, which has a chance to succeed as a standard and decentralized open SSO where, in a way, OpenId failed.

Instead of connecting with gmail, yahoo, facebook, whatever, you simply connect with your email address.

As said the main developer: "Persona is an easy way to sign in that enables you to use your existing email account. It's an open technology on the path to standardization."

MB

Matthew Bartlett Wed 28 Aug 2013 5:45AM

The plan (and baldamiq mockups) as I understood it is to start with Google, then add Facebook soon after. Though the plan may have evolved; Loomio's a dynamic place.

RG

Robert Guthrie Wed 28 Aug 2013 6:15AM

@raphaeljadot! Great to hear you supporting Persona. I personally really want to get it implemented. We've been working on SSO for Loomio, starting with Google Accounts support, once that is in there will be an obvious template for developers to follow when they want to implement another sign on service.

So in a few weeks it'll be pretty straight forward to implement Persona. I love the principals of Persona and really want to see Loomio embrace it too.

Thanks again.

MPR

Miguel Prados Rodriguez Wed 28 Aug 2013 6:34AM

You only need to put persona in or persona & facebook. If you have gmail, most probably it will be your email account linked to persona, so there is no need to put in gmail login. I found amazing not to have to remember passwords with persona, I think its a winner.

BK

Benjamin Knight Wed 28 Aug 2013 9:15AM

Hi @raphaeljadot , great to see you in here! It would be totally appropriate for you to put up a proposal on this if you'd like :)

The Loomio Community group isn't a decision-making forum, but it's a good place for anyone to raise things that they'd like to discuss.

Proposing something like "do people think it would be a good idea to support Persona?" could work very well

BK

Benjamin Knight Wed 28 Aug 2013 9:18AM

@matthewbartlett , I think it's a really important point to consider - realistically, a tiny proportion of our users would have pre-existing Persona accounts, and only a small proportion would be likely to set up Persona accounts as a result of stumbling across it via Loomio - but this would still be a good thing.

I'd personally be in favour of implementing SSO with Google, FB, and Persona (possibly in that order) to give people the option, then in the ideal situation that Persona starts to become more and more common, could promote it as a preferred option in some way.

RJ

Poll Created Wed 28 Aug 2013 1:34PM

Log in with Persona? Closed Sat 31 Aug 2013 2:35PM

Outcome
by Raphaël Jadot Mon 27 Feb 2017 10:21PM

Persona is an interesting SSO that could be taken in account, both for practical and ethical reasons (see discussions)

Would you like the possibility to log in loomio with Persona?

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/persona/

For people who do not have a Persona account:

It's not a question about the implementation of Persona before, after or over Google account or Facebook account, but mainly about supporting a saner single sign on system (simple, universal, non centralized, letting users control their data, open-source)

Results

Results Option % of points Voters
Agree 100.0% 12 JV JL RDB BK DS ST JVD RJ CT JD JD VM
Abstain 0.0% 0  
Disagree 0.0% 0  
Block 0.0% 0  
Undecided 0% 888 RG KC NW MT JC AT AC MB G JG RW RF N AC HM SZ CR JT DMA KS

12 of 900 people have participated (1%)

RJ

Raphaël Jadot
Agree
Wed 28 Aug 2013 1:37PM

In my opinion, loomio team should support this :) for letting users breaking their digital jails :)

Other advantage, it's well documented, and even if i did not implemented it myself, some colleagues dev told me it's easy to implement.

JVD

Jaco van der Merwe
Agree
Wed 28 Aug 2013 6:26PM

introduces a degree of SSO & superficial multi-platform integration

RDB

Richard D. Bartlett
Agree
Wed 28 Aug 2013 8:15PM

I love Persona :)

BK

Benjamin Knight
Agree
Wed 28 Aug 2013 8:24PM

I'd love to see us support Persona alongside other SSO options

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