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Ask for a RubyMine free license

DU Deleted account Public Seen by 64

I talkde a little bit with few people about which IDE to use for ruby.

It seems like several like to use SublimeText which is indeed a great IDE but can be hard to setup and use.

To me, JetBrains provides some of the top IDE in the market. I already use PyCharm et IntelliJ for personal use and I love it.

As a well-known ruby project community, I thought it could be a good idea to ask for a free license for RubyMine in order to make the developement easier for newcomer (like me).

http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/buy/

What is your opinion ?

DT

David Thompson
Disagree
Wed 16 Jul 2014 1:06PM

As a member project of the FSSN, it would be a bad idea to endorse proprietary software by seeking gratis licenses to freedom denying software.

JR

Jason Robinson Wed 23 Jul 2014 12:52PM

So, shall we draft an application here or someone want to just do it? :)

DU

Deleted account Wed 23 Jul 2014 12:58PM

I think it's better to do it here, since I have not the expertise to talk in the name of the D* community ^

DU

Deleted account Thu 24 Jul 2014 4:54PM

Well, there is no text to write to apply. It just must be done by someone reponsible for the project leading.
D* can apply here

JR

Jason Robinson Thu 24 Jul 2014 7:29PM

Done. Will update here once they get back.

DU

Deleted account Thu 24 Jul 2014 10:09PM

Thank you a lot !

DU

Deleted account Thu 24 Jul 2014 10:10PM

I'll improve the D* wiki article on the IDE setup once I have test RubyMine !

MDR

Mario Daniel Ruiz Saavedra Sun 27 Jul 2014 6:35AM

Ok people, i'm late, but i asked Dr. Richard Stallman about this, and i got this response:

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David Thompson asserted that it would be a "problem" if you "had to" use only freedom-respecting software to develop Diaspora. That question is a red herring. People don't need the approval of the Diaspora project for what they use privately. If they want to surrender their freedom by privately running a nonfree program, you
could not stop them; normally you would not even know.

The real issue is not what people can use, it is what the Diaspora project endorses and does. To offer people licenses for a proprietary program is more than just an endorsement. It is direct participation in the distribution of that program.

What that says to people is, "Freedom is not important." In the long run, it undermines the love of freedom that would motivate why people to contribute to Diaspora.

I implore the Diaspora project to cease participation in distribution of a nonfree program, and I suggest that those who find that program convenient join in developing a free replacement for it.

DU

Deleted account Sun 27 Jul 2014 10:30AM

Too late, we had a vote. Moreover, we do not obliged anyone to use anything.

If there was a free IDE of quality and the simplicity of JetBrain's, why not. But the most important thing isn't that people strat contributing to Diaspora* more than strictly respecting Guru's voice ?

G

goob Sun 27 Jul 2014 11:35AM

Could someone point out what is the relevance of Stallman's view to Diaspora? Last time I checked he wasn't involved in the project (and never has been).

Diaspora has never insisted that only Free Software can be used in anything involving Diaspora's software. Indeed, since the first release, it has been possible to install and run Diaspora on Mac OS, which is completely non-free. Diaspora is about freedom in the lower-case (non-Stallman) sense: allowing people to do what they want to do in as many ways as possible. The Stallman sense is about restriction as much as it is about real freedom.

I don't see how enabling people to use a particular product without having to pay for it is in any way endorsing that product. If as part of this agreement Diaspora has to, for example, place a notice on the project website that we are thankful to JetBrains for giving project developers free licences (or, worse, that Diaspora is 'partnering' with JetBrains to develop Diaspora's software), that would be something like endorsement, and that would, I think, need a separate discussion and vote.

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